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Does anyone know where to get the comics digitally? I'd prefer to read on my phone or tablet if possible. I can't find them for sale anywhere
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To celebrate the 20th anniversary of The Matrix, Burlyman Entertainment is releasing the full original run of comics,including stories and material never printed, in one oversized deluxe hardcover edition.
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It might be released on comixology as well
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That would be ideal
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I can't find a copy online without registering to a phillipine library, so your best bet legally is to hold out for it being released digitally in November.
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Oversized hardcover, thought it would be more than $40, that's not too bad
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Gotta pick that up
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I'm sure I have The Matrix Comics in PDF somewhere, but obviously based on the older version
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Deleted User 16.9.2019. 6:19
@Roukan Do you know if it is getting a physical reprint?
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I have the first comic
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eBay
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@Deleted User No idea
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So I've been reading the comics, and I gotta say Goliath is the most compelling story so far.
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It's like WTF? (edited)
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Yeah, I think Goliath always had the most buzz.
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Man I haven't gotten into mine yet, only skimmed over it,
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Bloodstained is taking up all my time atm lol
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That's that "not Castlevania, but it basically is" game, right?
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It's by the same guy, yeah. It's like a much more complex version of Symphony of the Night. It's amazing if you're into Igarashi's Castlevania games
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The GBA ones, DS, etc. But my fave was always SotN and this one is way up there with that.
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Also composers that worked on those games, all kinds of legit Konami and Capcom people
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@Vesuveus are you reading the matrix front to back, or skipping around?
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Like is there any continuity at all across any of them or are they completely standalone?
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I never got into the series, but I'm happy that fans get a spiritual successor that lives up to the legacy. I'll be reading the comics after I get well, get my brain back. Looking forward to 'em though.
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I started with Chadwickโ€™s new story, but stopped. Iโ€™ll skip around when I dive into it.
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It's doing extremely well too, it's likely the first in a series
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Bloodstained that is
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I own the previous two matrix comics collections. I was upset when MxO threw some of that canon out the window. I just got my hardcover so definitely excited to revisit these stories!
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I'm trying to remember which comic story had the reinsertion
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Saviors
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Hold on
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Yes, the 20th anniversary edition has it
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So the movies left reinsertion's actual existence ambiguous, like it was probably an empty promise. Did MxO confirm or deny reinsertion was possible?
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There was a Live Event post where Cryptos talked to Agent Gray
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and Agent Gray said "There is no such procedure."
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but apparently the comic Saviors contradicts that.
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yeah cypherites got really dissapointed by that
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starschwar 31.12.2019. 0:56
Just because an Agent says something doesn't mean it is actually true. It just means that, as far as they and those subservient to them are concerned, it does not exist.
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I mean, disappointed is putting it mildly.
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starschwar 31.12.2019. 0:57
Which is the most delightful irony. The Cypherites unhappy that the Machines lied to them - despite their whole ideology being about embracing the greatest lie the Machines ever told.
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It is ironic, I will agree with that
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So yea, I think Savior should take precedent over "There is no such procedure" when it comes to reinsertion.
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wasnt written by chadwick so nuh huh
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Meh
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Yep
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So apparently, according to the comic "Bits and Pieces of Information" B166ER killed not only the humans trying to kill him, but those little teacup chihuahuas as well.
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They had it coming
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Not sure how to feel about it, on one hand I love all dogs, on the other hand, I'm pretty sure teacup chihuahuas have some health problem due to their small size.
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Yeah, the teacup breeds are almost too small for their own good. Plus they get sat on in the Hot Shots movie
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We'll call it a mercy killing then
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I honestly consider the comics higher on the canon scale than MxO.
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@Fenshire
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hahahaha
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Sadly, given the way things turned out, Id agree
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I fully expect MxO to become non-canon once Matrix 4 comes out. If by some miracle they accommodate the story to include MxO, I will be happy as a clam. Cause Fenshire is canon haha
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Itโ€™s hard to consider something canon that no one can experience, ya know?
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Except for Moshimo dying, Nothing important happened in MxO that anyone who wasnt there would even understand.
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Metalogic 2.1.2020. 17:48
I consider anything up to Chapter 8 to be canon
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I disregard anything after the War Arc
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You would
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but nobody that didnt play would
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I cant picture anything that happened mattering
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but who knows
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Metalogic 2.1.2020. 17:55
I honestly don't think Chadwick was a bad writer, he was simply the wrong writer. Like, put him in Marvel or DC he'd do great.
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But he wasn't the right fit for The Matrix Universe
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Manic Velocity 2.1.2020. 18:04
@Fenshire Iโ€™m with you. Matrix comics > MxO in terms of story
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โ€œGoliathโ€ is top tier. Gaiman nailed the atmosphere and tone while blending some new elements into the lore.
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Chadwick was a very unusual choice for the Matrix. I feel like the Wachowskis had very bizarre tastes in comics
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The only way I would have hope of MxO remaining canon is if they novelized the core story, made a comic series, or even just printed that MxO storybook
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Itโ€™s obvious to me that the comics are still being lauded as canon, what with the release of the 20th anniversary edition which even makes mention of Matrix 4 in the text
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I havenโ€™t finished reading the whole thing, but there is a blurb about each author before their respective comics. It would be interesting to see if MxO is mentioned under Chadwickโ€™s entry. That would give me some hope
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Metalogic 2.1.2020. 18:27
I think MxO will be relegated to EU status.
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I donโ€™t think the Wachowskis are douchey, so I do think they will respect MxO in some way.
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Metalogic 2.1.2020. 18:38
I guess we'll see
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Metalogic 2.1.2020. 18:49
@Fenshire How is Fen canon?
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Part of the team that saved Commander Lock!
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Metalogic 2.1.2020. 18:56
Awww ๐Ÿ˜ฆ
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I want Metalogic to be canon.
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Ever been in an official event screenshot?
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Metalogic is canon af
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Metalogic 2.1.2020. 18:56
I'm sure I've been in my fair share of screenshots
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We need to bring LE back, that was the one thing that MxO did perfectly.
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Iโ€™m happy MxO was my first PC game. I thought it was outstanding lol
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Metalogic 2.1.2020. 19:01
lol
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Deleted User 13.1.2020. 12:16
oh my goddd they just delivered the comics to my school address
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so excited
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be interested to hear your views on them
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Deleted User 13.1.2020. 15:54
it's on campus, but they have to bring it to the middle school building
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just a few more dayyyys
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just go walk and get ti
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Deleted User 13.1.2020. 16:00
I can't
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too far
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our campus is big
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laughs in fitbit
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Deleted User 13.1.2020. 16:01
720 acres I ain't going there with 24 hrs of teaching
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why was it delivered to campus anyway
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Deleted User 13.1.2020. 16:01
y'all can go
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if its gonna take 3 days
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Deleted User 13.1.2020. 16:01
I work in the school
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more effective to have it delivered to home
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Deleted User 13.1.2020. 16:01
they won't deliver it at all with the floor I'm at
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and they don't
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they bring it directly to you tax who? they pay it on the go for you and they don't throw the package around
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so yeah, school campus
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Deleted User 16.1.2020. 14:26
The book is here, and Iโ€™m living for it
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Deleted User 16.2.2020. 4:40
Wait, the comics were republished laster year?
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They were rereleased in hardcover last year (edited)
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Deleted User 16.2.2020. 4:46
Huh, I am really out of the loop on merch.
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I never saw the originally released stuff but this apparently includes extra stuff that hasn't been seen before
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There are two covers, I ended up getting the pod cover. Almost got the trinity cover
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For what you get, the price is reasonable imo
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Anyone know what the brass ring refers to in 'a life less empty?'
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"Still reaching for that brass ring, when it's long past grabbing." (edited)
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I was thinking ripcord but that doesn't make sense
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Huh, it's an oldschool carnival thing apparently
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What carnival thing?
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Some kind of carousel game where iron rings are losers and the brass ring is the winner?
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I had to look it up
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A brass ring is a small grabbable ring that a dispenser presents to a carousel rider during the course of a ride. Usually there are a large number of iron rings and one brass one, or just a few. It takes some dexterity to grab a ring from the dispenser as the carousel rotates....
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The Link character from Burning Hope I'm guessing is just coincidentally named, since this was written before the first movie and Link was a freeborn
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and Link in 'Burning Hope' was an operative jacked into the matrix
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Deleted User 16.2.2020. 21:21
@bitbomb Does the 20th anniversary edition include the movie comic from 1999?
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The one that was recalled
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Do you know what it's called? There are 28 in total, some of them were never published in print before, just online
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Deleted User 16.2.2020. 21:25
I am not a professional comic grader, but have been around the books and the makers since 1974. see photos for details.high gloss book, so sorry about the reflections. I don't CGC my books because they should be read or admired before sealing it in plastic!
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This
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I'm not sure which stories are in these, the comics were commissioned before the matrix movies were made
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"the content was deemed too mature for cinema audience and it was withdrawn and pulped," touchy touchy
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I wish I would have known about that, but I saw The Matrix in a shitty small town theater, I'm sure those comics never made it anywhere near me
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Deleted User 16.2.2020. 21:31
I bought mine on Amazon.
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Which stories are in it?
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Deleted User 16.2.2020. 21:31
I was 2 when the Matrix came out, so there was no chance in hell I would have seen it
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Let me check
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lol
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I was 17
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Deleted User 16.2.2020. 21:33
Goliath, System Freeze, The Man Who Knew Too Much, Sweating the Small Stuff, Deja Vu, Morning Sickness, Bits and Pieces of Information, Wrong Number, Fareweel Performace, A Life Less Empty.
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The Man Who Knew Too Much and Morning Sickness have never been reprinted.
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So I'm reading from the beginning, Bits and Pieces is the first story, then Sweating the Small Stuff, A Life Less Empty, Goliath, Burning Hope
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That's as far as I've gotten so far
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Checking for the others
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Deleted User 16.2.2020. 21:35
Ah, that Comic was just a preview.
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Interesting.....
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'The Man Who Knew Too Much' is not here
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neither is 'Morning Sickness'
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Deleted User 16.2.2020. 21:38
Those were never published in any other volume
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I'm surprised they didn't include them in the 20th anniversary edition
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It includes some stuff that was never published before, but excludes stuff that was
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I've only just started, I'm on Butterfly
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Deleted User 16.2.2020. 22:14
Ohh boy I have barely read the comic as well :/
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Oof, even if I wanted to read the recalled stuff Itโ€™s not shipping to my location :โ€™c
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Hopefully those two are at least available as PDF downloads or something somewhere
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For being rare and recalled, the matrix theater preview comic is pretty inexpensive
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Deleted User 16.2.2020. 22:28
Hopefully Iโ€™ll look around tomorrow tbh and yeah Iโ€™d get it in an instant
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Deleted User 17.2.2020. 0:05
@Deleted User That was a preview comic, you can still get volumes 1 and 2 or the 20th anniversary edition online.
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Just bought one off eBay
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Deleted User 17.2.2020. 4:37
I have the 20th anniversary edition โœจ @Deleted User
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Me, too. I just gotta read it now! Lol
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Deleted User 17.2.2020. 6:02
same...there's not much time on my hands and it's annoying
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I got my copy of the recalled Matrix comic today
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Good shape?
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Great shape, one slight bend in a corner, but overall Iโ€™m very happy with condition
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Though, itโ€™s just the one Chadwick story Deja Vu
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Deleted User 24.2.2020. 20:13
holy moly
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@Vesuveus do you have any snaps of it?? eeeeee
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I can take some
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Plus, the link above has some
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Deleted User 25.2.2020. 3:28
My copy arrived as I was moving so I need to dig it out.
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Deleted User 25.2.2020. 4:43
oof
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I hope there are still enough copies of the recalled Matrix comics available, I need to pick one up
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I'm not finished with the 20th anniversary yet, but I can't deal with having an incomplete collection
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Than and I can't deal with having seen The Matrix in theaters and not gotten the comic that was supposed to come with it
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Weird to see Poppy Z Brite in there,
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I read some of her stuff in high school, namely Drawing Blood
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Probably a year before The Matrix came out
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OK you guys inspired me, I just ordered my copy
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Companion to the 20th anniversary
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Deleted User 25.2.2020. 8:39
ayyyyy
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nice!
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it literally does not ship here fdkhgjkdf
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:'c
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Deleted User 27.2.2020. 4:48
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Hmm, I never knew a Batman/Matrix crossover existed.
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wut
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is that real?
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The Smith is a common promo shot
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Deleted User 27.2.2020. 5:08
yeah it looks like someone shopped Neo and Smith onto the cover of a different comic
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yar
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It's cute tho
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Where'd you find that? I did some quick research and came up with zilch
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Deleted User 27.2.2020. 5:14
I googled a Batman Matrix comic movie poster from 2015 and this came up.
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Man, can't wait, my recalled copy of The Matrix 1999 theatrical release comic should be here any day now
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Deleted User 27.2.2020. 5:14
I need to dig mine out of the attic as it came when I moved (edited)
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Hopefully it's in good shape and will fit nicely next to the 20th anniversary hardcover
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Deleted User 27.2.2020. 5:15
As for DC owning the Matrix comics rights, I would love to see a Batman/Matrix crossover.
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That would be weird though.....
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Deleted User 27.2.2020. 5:16
DC does side projects like that all of the time.
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You'd have to admit that Bruce Wayne is a bluepill
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Deleted User 27.2.2020. 5:16
I mean, they have Joker and Batman fighting it out throughout time.
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Yes he would be.
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But it would most likely be a one shot comic so it wouldn't be canon in the Batman or Matrix universe and DC loves doing one shots like that.
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It makes all of his endeavors kind of meaningless
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Compared to the big picture
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Deleted User 27.2.2020. 5:18
I mean, Batman has done crossovers with Marvel comics.
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Also, for the most part, Batman took place in the 1930s/1940s, but that depends on what comics you're reading
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Deleted User 27.2.2020. 5:19
Well there is now the new DC 52 timeline.
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Speaking of, I'm currently watching Gotham, that is a damn fine show
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I'm on season 4
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Deleted User 27.2.2020. 5:19
Nice
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Plot twist, Gotham city is the city that Neo was in.
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It's on Prime I think? Maybe Netflix
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Deleted User 27.2.2020. 5:20
I will have to check it out.
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Oh man, if you haven't seen it and you're a Batman universe fan,
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ABSOLUTELY check it out
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I love the liberties they take, as the time period is much earlier since Bruce is still very young,
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Deleted User 27.2.2020. 5:21
So basically Batman year one?
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The adaptations of a lot of well known characters are amazing
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It's much less about Batman, and more about Gordon and the early days of the supervillains
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Deleted User 27.2.2020. 5:22
I like that premise.
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But Bruce and Alfred are main characters
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It's bloody brilliant
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Deleted User 27.2.2020. 5:22
I would imagine
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Now if the DCEU wouldn't rush character building, there would be a solid storyline.
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And since it's a comic book univerise, they have the license to change things,
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Deleted User 27.2.2020. 5:23
Though Shazam was very well paced.
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and they took very careful license to do so
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Not to spoil anything, but Selena Kyle and Ivy are good examples
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It's not spoily because you find that out right off
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Deleted User 27.2.2020. 5:24
Hmm, interesting
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Also, Matrix connection, Jada Pinket Smith plays Fish Mooney
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Long before he was commissioner, rookie cop James Gordon takes on Gotham City crime and corruption to avenge the murder of Bruce Wayne's parents.
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And Donal Logue plays his partner, I fucking LOVE that guy
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The cast is fantastic
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If you're not familiar with him by name, he was Jimmy the Cab Driver in the MTV bumpers, and he was Frost's sidekick in Blade, and he was Kevin Mitnick's sidekick in Trackdown (or Takedown, depending on region),
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he's been in a ton of stuff
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The Rock lol
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Some X-Files episodes
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Donal Logue, Actor: Blade. Donal Logue's versatility and talent makes him one of the most well respected and beloved actors today. Born in Ottawa, Canada, Logue moved all over the United States, from the Boston area as an infant to various towns on the Mexican border. He retur...
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Gotham is really well written, and they really did justice to the Batman vibe. Serious, dark, seedy, but also a dash of camp
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I adore their adaptations of the supervillains, especially Penguin, The Riddler, Doctor Strange,
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Mr Freeze and Firefly are decent
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I dig what they did with their proto-joker too, I guess for some licensing reason they couldn't use a character called Joker
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Deleted User 27.2.2020. 20:26
So I finally got around to opening the package and it was worth almost falling out of the attic as I have two.
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Oh shit, they sent you two?
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Mine's estimated to arrive Mar 3
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Fish Mooney was a great character! I fell off watching Gotham in season 3
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She was originally only supposed to be in season one to service Penguin as a main character, I'm so glad they stuck with her
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Dude, mine just arrived today, was there a second printing of these or something?
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It looks brand new
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Like it was printed yesterday
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Absolutely perfect condition too
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Deleted User 29.2.2020. 5:06
@bitbomb Comic collectors take very good care of comics. That is probably why it is in nice condition.
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I couldn't believe the care that was taken in shipping this, shout out to Batman Bill
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Standard cardboard backed plastic enclosed comic. Sandwiched by two rigid cardboard panels, the pouch was painter's taped to one side, bubble wrap sheet between the pouch and the other cardboard panel. This was in one of your standard USPS priority mail envelopes, but had DO NOT FOLD written all over it
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First time I've ever bought a comic book online, so I have no idea how typical this is
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Wish I knew these things came out with the original movie. I saw it close to opening day, but in a shit town
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Fortunately it's super close to the size of the 20th anniversary hardcover, so they'll store next to each other easily. I have zero other comic books anymore
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batman bill ๐Ÿ˜„
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There was a '60s batman sticker on the outside of the priority mail envelope lol
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He's totally played ETM too lol
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Big Matrix fan
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The pride dude took in his packaging and stuff, had to correspond a bit
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nice
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Iโ€™m thinking about buying the 20th anniversary edition. Is it worth it? Itโ€™s like the only piece of Matrix story Iโ€™m missing. (edited)
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Yes
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You should buy it
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The price is right imo
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Do they show any stuff post Revolutions in the comics?
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Some comics are specifics about where in the timeline it takes place, others, not so much.
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Deleted User 17.3.2020. 20:08
correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think any of the comics were confirmed to take place after Revolutions
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most of them just leave us guessing as to when they take place
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There are some comics where you KNOW where they take place
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Like the one about B166ER
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Others are a bit more....hazy about it's place in the timeline
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Makes sense, that was written by the W's, most of the others are written by other people
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They weren't coordinated
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I wonder how you got picked to write a comic for The Matrix comic books
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I think it was mostly people they've worked with before
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Marvel types
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Not sure tho
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Ahh okay
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I heard there was a story with Kid and Morpheus after Revolutions, maybe even MxO time?
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Neomatrixology 26.3.2020. 2:38
I Kant is the story with the Kid & Morpheus....
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DOooIT:
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pagesix1536 19.4.2020. 19:13
Chadwick sent me a collection of goodies.
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Deleted User 19.4.2020. 19:41
WHOA.
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Nice
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Thatโ€™s awesome!
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A while back I was in contact with him regarding some original artwork. He was selling a painting and some charcoal drawings cheap.
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Painting was out of my price range
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Thatโ€™s awesome @pagesix1536
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pagesix1536 19.4.2020. 20:16
Thanks. Was so random. I tagged him in a photo I took of the magazine I had, mentioned it was sealed up and wondered if I should break it open to read the story.
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He replied back and offered to send me a "reader" copy.
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Heโ€™s awesome when it comes to interacting with fans
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Deleted User 19.4.2020. 21:29
This entire fandom is wholesome tho
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KaosDevil 20.4.2020. 5:12
That is very cool! I had that magazine but i lost it :( that's how I heard about the game
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I am potentially getting The Matrix 20th aniversery comics, provided the pop stop still has it..
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@Unknown Please don't advertise other Discord servers on here, thank you.
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I finally bought The Matrix comics 20th anniversary edition! Should receive it soon.
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Nice!
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Deleted User 5.12.2020. 15:21
awesome!
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Hell yeah
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That was my missing piece when it comes to Matrix media (edited)
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Neomatrixology 5.12.2020. 22:34
Hard cover is definitely worth the price of admission... my original paper backs are a little flimsy in the binding glue area and could easily fall apart. There are also comics in the 20th anniversary edition that were only online & weren't printed in Volume 1 or 2
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My volume 1 is in pieces
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Precognist 6.12.2020. 3:53
Mine was supposed to come today.
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Precognist 7.12.2020. 23:32
breakthtaking 3
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It came!!
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Really, was a second order. First one was lost days ago. LOLFACEMATRIX
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Noice
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Deleted User 12.12.2020. 7:01
I need to get mine, but my paycheck has been cut in half.
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Deleted User 12.12.2020. 13:21
@Precognist how much does it cost?
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Like $40
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Tragedy Of Rebirth - OG MxO comic (One for the dusty veterans) https://imgur.com/a/hieaJe7
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Really nice. With what app did you make it?
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Yea, I would love to see how one would make a comic.
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That was all photoshop decades ago
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Theres 4 of the damn things and they're super edgy because I was 18 when making them haha
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I think that was all of us when playing MxO.
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We weren't exactly a group of preppy happy go lucky teenagers LOL
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Honour In Betrayal - MxO Comic #2 :: https://imgur.com/a/A5N5i9u
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Starring Lady3Jane and ZestyO among others
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Honour In Betrayal 2 : Absolution - MxO Comic #3 :: https://imgur.com/a/zagV0uf
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Tragedy Of Rebirth 2 - Unreleased/Unfinished MxO Comic #4 https://imgur.com/a/7PJVFBR (edited)
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That ones suuuper edgy
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If anyone remembers caffinex comics from back in the day, looks like this is an advert for the fourth part
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I tried to recover caffinex, but couldnโ€™t
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Metalogic 4.1.2021. 0:08
RIP Caffinex
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this is on sale
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niicew
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Metalogic 9.1.2021. 2:09
It is hard to read that hardcover book when you have a cat that wants bedtime cuddles.
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ColdSpike 9.1.2021. 3:36
Cats are known for that, yes.
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Or box cuddles, they gotta cuddle them boxes
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Damn I bought it like a month ago
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ColdSpike
this is on sale
Thanks man! Finally grabbed my copy
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where to get all the matrix comics from the internet?
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Metalogic 3.2.2021. 22:15
You can order the hardback cover of the comics on Amazon.
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I think it's $45
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Neomatrixology 3.2.2021. 22:22
The only place that had them all online that I know of was the official Warner site, that no longer has them.
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$34 and it has ALMOST everything
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It has tons of stuff that was never printed before, but it still lacks one or two stories that were in the original movie release promo comic
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I had to get that separately
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I've heard of a lot of the comics being around in PDF form tho, I want to say @Vesuveus knew where they were?
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I got the comic that was "recalled", also. It had a paul chadwick story in black and white. The harcover has it in color.
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i hate to credit them, but Matrix Explained found a comic story on the wayback machine from whatIsTheMatrix.com that was not printed.
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as for pdf, none that i am aware of. though, there is an offline website that has one volume, all stories
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would have to dig to find it. For $34, its worth having the hardcover
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i have The Art of the Matrix in pdf
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Absolutely agree that for the content, size, and quality, $34 is MORE than reasonable
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And oh man it smells so good lol
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why do i get flash error when i try to play this flash matrix game?
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Metalogic 6.2.2021. 1:50
Because Flash is no longer supported
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its impossible to play the game?
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Metalogic 6.2.2021. 2:09
As far as I know, yes.
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WestleyWolf 6.2.2021. 7:04
actually no
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i can still access it
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get pale moon
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take the flash thats installed off
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get either Ruffle (if your using chrome, edge or firefox) or this http://andkon.com/arcade/faq.php and disable updates for it (since their isnt any) (edited)
Andkon Arcade: 1000+ free flash games, updated weekly, and no popups!
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(archive.org uses ruffle as well)
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all other plugin based stuff are in flashpoint infinity.
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Deleted User 6.2.2021. 10:20
@WestleyWolf did you play that game?
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WestleyWolf 6.2.2021. 12:04
yeah
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Hi, just joined the server. Nice to see people that people still enjoy this franchise. I saw that a few months back there were people trying to find the comics. Here is the web archive of the series so you can read em in all its 2004 era glory: http://web.archive.org/web/20040721075442/http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com:80/rl_cmp/comics_new_front.html If you want I can pass you the pdf collection. I downloaded it from here, https://dfiles.eu/files/tf2vowhl0%20The_Matrix_Comics.rar Having said that, if you like them buy the 20th anniversary collection, it's pretty cheap, you won't regret it, it contains almost everything that appeared. Have a nice week.
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Thanks for dropping the links!
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I love that archive. Just the imagery of the lost websites
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Yeah but mostly you get the quick shot of excitement when finding a lost resource followed by the disappointment of a 404. Thanks for the working link.
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the old matrix website was full of wonders I remember spending hours on it even though I didn't even speak english
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The games they had where you could see holographic versions of hovercrafts etc was amazing
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Hi, for completeness sake here is the link for the "deleted" comic "The man who knew too much". It was not published in the books, and was later deleted online, so here you go. Enjoy. http://web.archive.org/web/19991012135436fw_/http://whatisthematrix.com/cmp/www1.html
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The games they had where you could see holographic versions of hovercrafts etc was amazing
You mean the Nebudchadnezzar model builder game?
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Calaeus (radiofreezion.net) 24.5.2021. 22:45
MxO really brought together a whole bunch of amazingly creative people, huh
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Neomatrixology 25.5.2021. 7:56
Wish I could make this Project Lady Bug story into a comic... but there's no way to recreate all the scenes in the emulator & can't draw worth a dam so
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Wish I could make this Project Lady Bug story into a comic... but there's no way to recreate all the scenes in the emulator & can't draw worth a dam so
Rip the models, stick em in blender, and render stills
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Boom, zero drawing needed
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Can we do that?
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What program do you use to rip the models?
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I've used a couple, one sec
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Ninjaripper can rip models+textures from 32-bit DirectX programs, and Noesis is used to convert those files to something you can use.
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I haven't tried them in MxO and from the sound of it someone was digging into the files so that's a better bet, but it worked in GW2
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NinjaRipper doesn't get the bones tho, so you'll hgave to learn how rigging works
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Oh, and Noesis only exports textures at, like, half opacity?
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But just stick em in Gimp, set the colour mixing to additive, and stick a black fill behind it and you'll be good
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Actually, it mighta been 3DRipperDX
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Dragonn
Rip the models, stick em in blender, and render stills
Neomatrixology 25.5.2021. 16:47
I have to admit you are talking outside of my realm of knowledge and skillsets however I'm down to open the collaboration up to the discord. It's a fan fiction so legally we can't sell it, but I think hard core Matrix fans will appreciate the story especially those who played Mxo
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I have to admit you are talking outside of my realm of knowledge and skillsets however I'm down to open the collaboration up to the discord. It's a fan fiction so legally we can't sell it, but I think hard core Matrix fans will appreciate the story especially those who played Mxo
Tbh it's outside mine too, I just google until something works
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MxO foreshadowing in the comics
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Ouranos
MxO foreshadowing in the comics
Metalogic 5.8.2021. 17:33
Is that The Kid?
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Yes
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SolivagantX 5.8.2021. 17:34
I was "upset" that the Neo in those comics is just a simulation
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cause they looked cool
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Yes
Metalogic 5.8.2021. 17:35
He looks like he's regretting his choice to self substainance
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Yeah itโ€™s set after Revolutions. Morpheus is training Kid with simulacras of all the Matrix characters (edited)
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He says he hates the matrix and doesnโ€™t want to be in the field there (edited)
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And that freeing people is Morpheusโ€™ job, not his
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So Morpheus says that
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tbf, unless the kid's got magic chosen one powers Morpheus could have picked an ctual adult
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Itโ€™s the closest thing to a post Revolutions comics
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SolivagantX 5.8.2021. 17:38
self-substantiation, was that explored in MxO
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?
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He seems to be the first one to have done that other than allegedly the first One
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The guy in World Record almost does it
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SolivagantX 5.8.2021. 17:39
yeah was just thinking about world record
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Kid should have some street cred: he woke himself up and opened the Zion gate to the hammer
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Ouranos
And that freeing people is Morpheusโ€™ job, not his
Metalogic 5.8.2021. 17:40
"Well too bad you annoying brat. You chose this, so now you have to toil in the virtual fields."
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I donโ€™t like this idea of the kid being against fighting when he clearly wanted to help during the Zion battle
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Metalogic 5.8.2021. 17:41
I wonder how many times Morpheus wanted to bitch slap someone.
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Everytime another of his โ€œOneโ€ died he probably slapped Cypher around (edited)
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Ouranos
Everytime another of his โ€œOneโ€ died he probably slapped Cypher around (edited)
Metalogic 5.8.2021. 17:42
"Think Cypher think!"
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Is self-substantiation fully exiting the Matrix, or just becoming aware of it?
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Is self-substantiation fully exiting the Matrix, or just becoming aware of it?
Metalogic 5.8.2021. 17:42
Fully exiting
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Alright, the fandom wiki disagrees but fair
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Itโ€™s a bit like onanism. Ghost is a fan.
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My dude, wrong word?
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Nope
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Right word
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Used by Ghost in ETM to explain how he survives his crush on Trinity
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Yeah, I'm missing a few steps of your thought process
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He said โ€œfully exitedโ€ so I thought coitus interruptus
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Think, McFly
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SolivagantX 5.8.2021. 17:45
LOLFACEMATRIX
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thats the best dialogue in the saga
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Haha yeah probably the only part of ETM I actually remember
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Good for the dialogue, I haven't even seen a copy of it in six years
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All the cutscenes are on the drive if youโ€™re feeling nostalgic
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Not enough to watch standalone cutscenes when I really should be sleeping, might look later tho
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I look at them more as Reloaded deleted scenes than cutscenes tbh
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It's also been too long ince I've watched Reloaded
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I've got a fucking headset, I should watch more movies on it
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SolivagantX 5.8.2021. 17:54
Reloaded's my most watched of the movies. every scene is a gem
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those fights
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CorruptedRSI 5.8.2021. 18:33
Same. Absolutely love Reloaded. Just wish the CGI held up, it's looking very dated and jarring now, while I didn't even notice it back then.
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SolivagantX 5.8.2021. 18:35
they could totally clean it up in the burly brawl
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it feels like its mostly the color grading during cgi NEO
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also 1 smith has a really crappy face like low res
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but otherwise I dont find it too bad
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also wish they'd fix the timing of Morpheus with the sword and the truck
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I always have to tell myself "he was really quick going down the truck with multiple sword stabs its cool"
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it's still impressive to me, almost 20 years old
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the amount of effort it must have taken to do those movies + ETM
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the amount of effort it must have taken to do those movies + ETM
CorruptedRSI 5.8.2021. 19:45
Build a whole highway too, just to not rely too much on CGI
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Now that is dedication.
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SolivagantX 5.8.2021. 20:15
Yeah they went in an unexpected direction, ppl expected more slow mo more bullet time but they went spare with it, instead full cgi sequences interspersed in massive physical props
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Car chase is a beauty. You could remove the twins fighting with Morpheus and Trinity inside the car and you wouldnโ€™t miss it, but i find it such a cool little fight
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CorruptedRSI 5.8.2021. 20:17
Man I love that knife fight inside the car
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That whole highway sequence is just perfect from start to finish
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Agents throwing cars at them
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SolivagantX 5.8.2021. 20:20
Yeha the escalation
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Agents throwing cars at them
SolivagantX 5.8.2021. 20:20
Oh thats what heโ€™s doing?! I thought it was just collateral damage but trying to hit them with the car is breathtaking
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CorruptedRSI 5.8.2021. 20:30
Haha well they ram them, and there's the trucks crashing at the end
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"throwing cars at them" just sounds way cooler
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Ouranos
The guy in World Record almost does it
Neomatrixology 10.8.2021. 8:07
Dan Davis isn't a previous one. If they don't meet the Architect, not the one.
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what about Don Davis?
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What about Sammy Davis?
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Neomatrixology
Dan Davis isn't a previous one. If they don't meet the Architect, not the one.
I never said he was?
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I just said he almost freeโ€™d himself like the Kid
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He seems to be the first one to have done that other than allegedly the first One
Neomatrixology 10.8.2021. 13:04
Misread what you were saying by 'allegedly' I thought you were referring to a theory where Davis is supposed to be a previous one because he self substantiated which doesn't really make sense
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I was just saying the only two people to have done that are Kid and (allegedly) the first One
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As far as we know
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Neo could do it in the next movie that would be cool
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What about Sammy Davis?
The Candyman?
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I donโ€™t think the first One freed himself. Probably chosen by Oracle to start the cycle.
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I know this probably strays into fanfiction, but I honestly doubt that there was much of a first "one"
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At least, not the kind of "one" that we really think about
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It was, in all honesty, probably a band of folks who managed to evade the machines long enough to pull a guy out (maybe with the Oracle's help) and started the first Zion
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Whether its true or not, Morpheus believes there was a person, the whole "When the Matrix was first built, there was a man born inside who had the ability to change whatever he wanted, to remake the Matrix as he saw fit. It was he who freed the first of us, taught us the truth" speech. Although he doesnt say he was a "one"
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The Candyman?
this cool cat
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Candyman was Tony Todd
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Also a cool cat tho
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Nah Sammy was the Candyman long before Tony Todd
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oh lol, other candyman haha
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Yeah, Morpheus story implies the first One self substantiated. But we know that most of what he believes is fed to him by the oracle who only gives pieces of the story to her rebel Redpills
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So our Neo was born inside the Matrix. But Iโ€™m version 5. He is freed, probably similarly or exactly like we see in version 6. Reaches the architect and chooses the door on right. Selects 23 individuals, dies and the cycle continues
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And the claim is that he self-substatiated.
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I donโ€™t think itโ€™s claimed. But I will say that when o first watched part 1, my thought was that he got himself out. But itโ€™s donโ€™t think thatโ€™s how it happened. You need assistance to survive or youโ€™ll drown. Weather itโ€™s humans picking you up on a ship or machines releasing you
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I think its possible that you didnt need assistance.Who knows what the first matrix was like?.What if you werent immersed in goo in a pod? Maybe they had people on tables and you just....woke up? lol still would be the problem of muscle atrophy I guess
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Lumivarjo Ethereal 10.8.2021. 18:03
Even if they were pods, they were likely much less monitored than the "current" pods anyhow as they had no Zion to worry about just yet
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astro_icecream๐Ÿฆ 10.8.2021. 18:16
I agree that first "One" must have had some help, perhaps from surviving humans scavenging and living on the surface like the crazy old dude in the comic I call "Man of La Mancha" as I can't recall real title atm. A select cadre of Freeborns, with the masses having not been in pods, could easily perpetuate a mystery around his freeing if they wanted him as a leader. Plus, I do think the Oracle is messing with Morpheus from a linguistic standpoint. That's pretty much her modus operandi.
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And if the first "One" self-substantiated, I think the following ones would also have that ability. Seems like it would make life easier for the machines if they could drop a bit of "self substantiate NOW" execute code into say, some really good noodles, at the time when the anomaly starts causing glitches.
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According to The Second Renaissance thatโ€™s how they first set up the fields
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Manic Velocity 10.8.2021. 18:44
that scene is legitimately terrifying
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I think its possible that you didnt need assistance.Who knows what the first matrix was like?.What if you werent immersed in goo in a pod? Maybe they had people on tables and you just....woke up? lol still would be the problem of muscle atrophy I guess
It wouldn't be the actual first or even the second - those being heaven & hell respectively.
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Manic Velocity 10.8.2021. 18:44
when they're poking the exposed brain
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gives me chills every time
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I go clinical & cold for those scenes.
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Yeah, though, I'm thinking that the Machines could instigate self-substatiation just as much as disabling it as they did in the Animatrix.
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It wouldn't be the actual first or even the second - those being heaven & hell respectively.
I dont see what the matrix simulation would have to do with how the matrix (of people) was technically constructed.
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CorruptedRSI 10.8.2021. 18:53
The guy on the right is missing his whole face, and the guy on the left is laughing uncontrollably
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Nightmare fuel
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sixxth
I dont see what the matrix simulation would have to do with how the matrix (of people) was technically constructed.
I mean the implementation of the One program.
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Nightmare fuel
The human condition, unadulterated.
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Oh yeah, I wasnt referring to anything other than the physical construction of the matrix
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Second Ren is machinist propaganda.
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Gami
Second Ren is machinist propaganda.
Very much a possibility, yes.
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Gami
Second Ren is machinist propaganda.
CorruptedRSI 10.8.2021. 18:56
For sure, but there is no other version that exists, so until it does, it's canon for me.
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If Zion wants to disprove it, let them do it.
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Oh yeah, I wasnt referring to anything other than the physical construction of the matrix
Indeed, indeed - they undoubtedly upgraded the mechanisms over time.
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For sure, but there is no other version that exists, so until it does, it's canon for me.
Not claiming itโ€™s non-canon. Only that itโ€™s manufactured to illicit a hostile response towards the machines in order to keep Zion in a state of war.
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The archives being a Machine plant, another system of control, nothing is trustworthy at face value.
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That said, the best ag-prop is rooted in reality.
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Not claiming itโ€™s non-canon. Only that itโ€™s manufactured to illicit a hostile response towards the machines in order to keep Zion in a state of war.
Then why include that little detail about humanity being the instigators - this is one thing that's always bothered me in contrast to the first film contrasted to the Animatrix.
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Yeah the archive lady says that both the machines and humanity have failed
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Or sinned
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I donโ€™t think they are. World leaders clearly were not down with granting 01 the same status as sovereign nations or any machine the same protections as humans. But second Ren goes from denial into the UN to full blown war really quick.
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Or something like that
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Thereโ€™s still no indication of what that tipping point was or who shot first.
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From what I understand from Second Renaissance, humans just couldnโ€™t deal with 01 being so powerful and probably controlling the stock market so they attacked. Wouldnโ€™t be a big surprise coming from us.
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And thatโ€™s all predicated on anything in Second Ren actually being legit. And when your enemy in the conflict has a full blown fabricated reality and your entire war effort is just another portion over their control and manipulation over youโ€ฆ well thereโ€™s a lot that should be re-examined about what Zion thinks it knows about itself and history
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For some reasons the wikia says the scene with the kid and the agents is from the first Matrix
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It doesnโ€™t look like paradise to me
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We should rewrite the wikia
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For some reasons the wikia says the scene with the kid and the agents is from the first Matrix
CorruptedRSI 10.8.2021. 19:44
What? How does that even make sense?
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Anyway, on the topic of "First One" and self-substantiation. Self substantiating appears to require an outside influence in order to inspire the subject to trigger enough of a reaction to that belief to eject themselves out of The Matrix. Runner pushes himself to reexperience something he felt while running and Kid's belief in Neo (maybe also suicide) are the two instances we see this happen and in both it's not entirely of the individuals own action but a desire toward something that finally pushes them. So if the First One had this experience he likely would need the same.
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This makes their own self substantiation less likely unless they were in a similar experience to the Runner. Problem though! The One is needed to reset the Matrix and in order to get them to do that they have to have an attachment to humanity. This would likely complicate that idea because Runner pushed himself off a purely self centric goal and Kid did it off a devotion to a savior. The One is supposed to be altruistic meaning selfish motivations aren't in the vocab and would be weird to be so highly devoted to yourself and still be willing to sacrifice yourself.
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So our First One is more than likely lacking any of the mental qualifications that we know of in order to achieve Self-Substantiation.
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CorruptedRSI 10.8.2021. 20:25
I'm too much of a brainlet to contribute (edited)
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Maybe he saw something was wrong with the world and tried to warn humanity only to die/be killed like a martyr and wake up in the real world.
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Then he was picked up by the machines and dropped next to an hovercraft or something haha (edited)
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Anyway, on the topic of "First One" and self-substantiation. Self substantiating appears to require an outside influence in order to inspire the subject to trigger enough of a reaction to that belief to eject themselves out of The Matrix. Runner pushes himself to reexperience something he felt while running and Kid's belief in Neo (maybe also suicide) are the two instances we see this happen and in both it's not entirely of the individuals own action but a desire toward something that finally pushes them. So if the First One had this experience he likely would need the same.
Altruism doesn't exclude selfishness completely. After all Neo chose to save Trinity over going through the door that would have (supposedly) reset the Matrix and performed his final function
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Right but the Architect comments on how Neo is different from the five previous. I believe Lilly has even characterized that moment as saying Neo didn't care about anything other than saving Trinity.
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My point being the mentality required to selfsubstantiate does not easily lend itself toward the being of The One as manufactured by the machines.
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Maybe The Oracle helped him get free
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Personally I think 'The One' is, like Archy said, a result of a series of psychological triggers (circumstance) and somewhat random genetic adaptability bred into the human population over a series of time. It reaches a boiling point, out pops The One. Self-substantiation, imo, are another class of redpills. Redpills being persons born with some kind of inkling that the Matrix isnt 'true reality'. So saying, everybody was right. You cant be plugged back in and everything will be otay. Your brain will just reject it again.
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Mini-Ones, essentially.
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I agree.
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If he didnโ€™t free himself then I feel like The Oracle probably had a hand in that. I also feel like he wasnโ€™t freeโ€™d alone. He probably had other humans with him in order to survive and populate Zion. (edited)
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Which could help with the whole caring about humanity part
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The Oracle definitely plays a part in all this and I imagine uses others like she did Morpheus in locating, priming, and freeing The One. The trouble is the period between reset and, oh i dont know, twenty years?, makes no god damn sense at all.
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We could almost have a clear timeline with all of our theories haha
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Though in my opinion this is all kinda moot, as I view The Real as another layer of the Matrix. Another, finer-meshed sieve to catch those who couldnt take the Cityscape itself ๐Ÿ˜‰
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Ugh
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Not this again
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Fraid so!
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The big ? for me is โ€œwhat happened once the first redpills were freeโ€™d?โ€
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How did they build Zion? (edited)
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Were the hovercrafts given to them by The Machines?
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How did they figure out how to get in the Matrix and read the code?
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I'd say all those could be explained by the fake Real hypothesis.
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Concept artist mentioned in an interview that Zion's architecture was supposed to hint that it's cut out and designed by the machines. It's not a hard confirmation but it certainly implies that the Machines supply Zion with......well everything
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Hovercrafts existed before or during the war. They can be seen on 2nd Renaissance
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Did they build Zion or was it given to them by the machines
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Yeah I know that Iโ€™m wondering how did they get their hands on them
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The machines probably gave them access to them
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Because you need an hovercraft just to go from the fields to Zion
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I wonder if that first One was the only one to know the truth
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I donโ€™t think those first 24 people did shit.
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About the Machines being behind everything
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Or maybe Zion is the old home of the Oligarchs
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Boooo
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Iโ€™m gonna be so mad when they show up in M4 haha
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I think the first twenty years after a reset make no god damn sense
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A lot of sex
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Gross!
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Also those people probably arrive in a destroyed Zion everytime
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We donโ€™t know the ratio of freed vs free born so who knows
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"Locke, your grandmother ate bread with the guy Neo's a reincarnation of. The fuck you mean you don't believe in The One!? He built that fucking table you're using"
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I feel like there is a lot more free born given the number of hovercrafts in the fleet
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Or the machines rebuild
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I feel like we arenโ€™t given any basis for that assumption
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the Zion rave didnโ€™t show a lot of plugs on the sweaty people as far as I remember
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Didnโ€™t Show a lot of necks at all (edited)
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We see their arms though
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Good point
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Must be so boring to be free born
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You just hang in Zion in the heat with no sky at all (edited)
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If youโ€™re lucky you become an operator
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But all those people we did see were relatively young but not kids. I donโ€™t recall seeing any kids in Zion other than Links nephews
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Donโ€™t recall seeing many middle aged/old people at the rave
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Spoon Boy was probably somewhere
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gonna call that a production issue. no one wanted to invite a elementary school to run around the studio set to film a rave
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Maybe.
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Iโ€™m just going by the information we are (or are not) given in the film
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"How was the field trip honey?" "A lot of sweaty people rubbed against each other and talking about machines"
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"How was the field trip honey?" "A lot of sweaty people rubbed against each other and talking about machines"
Also there was a big sex scene in the middle
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Right but I rather not drift too far into speculation because then it turns into fan boi fan fiction instead of looking at what the filmmaker actually shows us.
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But thatโ€™s me. You be you.
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Make Neo have a unicorn sticking out of his ass if thatโ€™s what you want to think. Just donโ€™t get too butthurt when I point it out and laugh at you (edited)
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Damn man you must be fun at parties
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I just said โ€œtheorizing is funโ€
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And I agreed
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And a lot of โ€œmaybesโ€ everytime I speculated
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Except for a Spoon Boy joke
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@Ouranos @Manic Velocity @CorruptedRSI Can I share some excerpts of this conversation on Instagram?
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of course
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CorruptedRSI 10.8.2021. 21:41
For sure my man
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Manic Velocity 10.8.2021. 21:41
I haven't been following, but go head ๐Ÿ˜„
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Concept artist mentioned in an interview that Zion's architecture was supposed to hint that it's cut out and designed by the machines. It's not a hard confirmation but it certainly implies that the Machines supply Zion with......well everything
astro_icecream๐Ÿฆ 11.8.2021. 2:34
I love that interview. Can't find a link to it right now, but it's illuminating and shows how much detail they put into the sets. The designer says that the fact that the machines built Zion, and that Zion has been around hundreds of years (and through many battles with Sentinels, ie there are bullet holes everywhere in the dock) is supposed to be an obvious part of the story for the viewer, even though the Zion items don't really seem to notice (it wasn't obvious to me, though I did wonder about why the doors were red). He even gets into details like the amount of rust they showed and something about the rock formations showing hundreds of years of erosion. My favorite part is that the red doors are supposed to be like the goo pods, the structure of Zion itself is an inverted power plant tower and there are wires and tunes and pipes everywhere like the tunes in the pods. So, yeah, I think the machines gave them pretty much everything, including the Hovercrafts with their neo-Jules Verne submarine aesthetic. My guess is that the let the original One and his merry band of freeborns "discover" Zion and lots of raw materials to recycle into furniture, rebuilt computers, etc. (edited)
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The "Ahab" comic about the scavengers backs up this idea of there being lots of usable things on the surface that survived the war. It's one of my favorites of the comics.
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astro_icecream๐Ÿฆ 11.8.2021. 2:44
Archival interview with Michael Turner from the official Matrix website. BACKGROUND MATRIX: How did you become involved with the MATRIX sequels? MICHAEL: I was just finishing Scooby-Doo, and Jules [Cook, Art Director] asked me to [...]
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Is there a list of matrix comics or somewhere to read them?
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Neomatrixology 11.9.2021. 18:57
Yeah there was a link that brought you to the original on-line comics but error 404 now
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Yeah there was a link that brought you to the original on-line comics but error 404 now
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Neomatrixology 11.9.2021. 19:11
Oh tanks I grabbed that when you posted it long long time ago. . It bailed me out of the missing & broken images from the link I was talking about but converting from pdf into images is low key a pain in the ass so it is going to take more time than I anticipated to finish making videos for all of them which kinda sucks a lot
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Oh tanks I grabbed that when you posted it long long time ago. . It bailed me out of the missing & broken images from the link I was talking about but converting from pdf into images is low key a pain in the ass so it is going to take more time than I anticipated to finish making videos for all of them which kinda sucks a lot
astro_icecream๐Ÿฆ 12.9.2021. 6:03
Can you just do a screenshot of the PDF images instead f converting the files, or will the quality be too poor? Just an idea!
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Neomatrixology 12.9.2021. 6:05
That's what I was doing for sure but right click & save is much faster
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And yes major Quality drop off
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Got me some cheap copies of Vol 1 and 2, I'm excited!
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Neomatrixology 12.9.2021. 6:20
Yeah I've got them & in a pinch I literally took cell phone pictures of frames in at least 2 videos but I do highly recommend the hard copy anniversary edition not just for the exclusive prints but durability the paperback glue does not hold up against the test of time
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Unfortunately I couldn't find any of the hardcover up online ATM, but 27 bucks for the two books didn't seem like bad deal for now looking around (edited)
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Yeah, when I first got a Matrix comic in like 2002, I walked out of the comic shop near Rochester and pages fell out.
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I hope I'm wrong but it looks like the 20th Anniversary hardcover was a one-time run. Everyone's out of stock (except a couple with the Trinity cover), and some are already marked 'Out of print'
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Someone was trying to scalp one for $100
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May just be? MSRP was 40-50$? I guess double MSRP isn't terrible for a rare book, but that suuucks
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I've been hoping for a similar thing else where, the rulebook for Mordheim has been out of print for little over a decade and it's hard to see a copy under 80$, and it's two expansion books rarely go under 120$. at least those had a wider print run, given I can at least readily find a copy of the core book, if expensive.
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Yeah I'm pretty sure I paid $40 for mine
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I'm sure sales spiked once the general audiences found out the trailer was coming lol
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No doubt XD
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I still feel a little lucky getting a Vol 1 n 2 for what I did then
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I don't have those, though their content is in the 20th anniversary. But I do have the original comic that was given out at select theaters at the release of the original film
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Very nice. Is that the one that got recalled?
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yeah
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I guess I'll read it when I get vol 1, but why did it get recalled? The wiki just said it was because of its controversial nature or something along those lines
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Deja Vu
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It's in this thread, something about the comics being incompatible with the film's rating
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Huh, wasn't the matrix R though?
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Unless the comics were THAT saucy
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Yeah it was R
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Neomatrixology 12.9.2021. 22:10
Dam if I had known it was limited prints I would have bought 10
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It wasn't advertised as such, maybe they didn't want to gamble on such a huge production? I dunno
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Maybe if M4 does well and more casual fans would be into it, they'll do another printing
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Most comic publishers operate on a print to demand structure. It would have only gone to reprints if the orders were there to justify it.
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And given weโ€™re two years after itโ€™s release the reprint window probably closed a bit ago.
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If M4 pulls interest youโ€™re more likely see the two volumes reprinted over an anniversary reprint. Or they put everything together again and call it an omnibus edition or deluxe edition. (edited)
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If it were DC that had publishing rights Iโ€™d be more certain of a reprint. But those comics staying with Burly Man make it a bit harder to judge. If I were putting a bet on a reprint Iโ€™d wager a it would be done as a paperback collection of everything. But Iโ€™m not certain it happens
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If DC had it though and the movie is a hit. Youโ€™d have a 25th collection 30th collection etc every five years
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And just one last note because a lot of people get confused on what โ€œprint to demandโ€ means. It refers to the front end of production where the publisher sends word out to its distributors that they have a product coming out and to start taking orders on it. Publisher will then print a number of copies to meet the order quantity from those orders and thatโ€™s it. They might take another set of orders in after release but thatโ€™s usually the end of it. It doesnโ€™t mean you can just walk into your local comic shop and put in an order whenever and get one. You had to have the order in before the final cut off. (edited)
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Previews World has a reprint listed for October 27th 2021.
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And Amazon is saying they'll have a new copy for you by Nov 6th. Which tracks since Diamond would have a week advance to sell before larger stores get a chance.
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Deleted User 27.9.2021. 5:06
Iโ€™ve always wondered why The Wachowskis only wrote one of the matrix comics
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Too busy making movies.
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Seriously, have teams of other talented writers take over your franchise, smash checks and do other moviesโ€ฆ Sounds like a plan.
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Yeah some of the non-Wachowski writers who put the comics together were really excellent.
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And then there was Paul Chadwick...
Sared pinned a message to this channel. 27.9.2021. 22:27
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uh oh
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Iโ€™ve always wondered why The Wachowskis only wrote one of the matrix comics
and they also could've continue them.
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furry hunter 27.9.2021. 22:32
We're do I read the comics
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i read them online a few years ago, they should still be there.
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furry hunter 1.10.2021. 23:26
Thx
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Wut website?
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hotlettuce 17.10.2021. 0:41
I've never read the comics I've been thinking about buying some of them is it worth it?
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Yeah. They are great for fans
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hotlettuce 17.10.2021. 3:12
I'm a huge fan
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From what I've read about what they're about there's a lot about morpheus's backstory which I'd be very interested in
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I want to know the backstory on everything and everyone
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Deleted User 17.10.2021. 16:02
yeah I want to buy it as well, just waiting for next month's
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From what I've read about what they're about there's a lot about morpheus's backstory which I'd be very interested in
Neomatrixology 18.10.2021. 1:05
I think "a lot" is an exaggeration... there's 3 Morpheus cameos (edited)
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astro_icecream๐Ÿฆ 18.10.2021. 2:11
I think the only one that would count as Morpheus backstory is The Miller's Tale. And he's silent in that one, as I recall? It's just, like, young Morpheus holding a plate at the Bread Festival?
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Neomatrixology 18.10.2021. 4:29
Yea I wouldn't call it a young Morpheus back story by any stretch. The one he's in most is I Kant which is essentially another Kid story
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Interestingly enough I have covered all the Morpheus cameos even though I'm only halfway through making videos for all the Matrix Comics: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkfb8OsyZBmdNkFhZ3oN7YFVgz1ohAFMN
Each Matrix Comic individually explained.
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astro_icecream๐Ÿฆ 18.10.2021. 15:24
Thanks again for doing these videos! Hopefully they will encourage people to buy the hardcover version now that it's getting a new print run. I'd love to see longer format graphic novels for the Matrix universe if we don't get some sort of animated anthology. I think interest in the older comics would encourage that.
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Neomatrixology 18.10.2021. 16:02
It seems like Burlyman is a ghost town though we'll see... The Animatrix Reloaded
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Is the hardcover getting a new run? When is that coming out?
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Next week for comic shops. Nov 3rd for amazon and other retailers
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Nothing on the website for another run of the hardcover
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It was listed on previewsworld. Which is the online catalogue for one of the largest comic distributors called Diamond. Amazon also had a shipping date for Nov 3rd few weeks ago.
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Although, amazons changed the listing to โ€œunavailableโ€ sounds like it might be delayed
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Previews still saying next week. Granted theyโ€™re notorious for shit updating on products
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Ah, I have a Diamond distributor in my town
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Maybe Iโ€™ll stop by and ask for some posters or something
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Well, one of my roommates works at the theater so.. I'll be getting a poster from there.
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I put my name on a list at the theater, too
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The cover is amazing.
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Neomatrixology 19.10.2021. 17:11
There's another cover as well
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The two are cool ! But yeah I think so Calaeus.
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There's another cover as well
I donโ€™t think this cover is getting a reprint. It was a direct market exclusive cover (only available to comic shops who ordered from Diamond)
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Neomatrixology 19.10.2021. 22:50
Yeah as fas as I know the only difference is the cover... I canโ€™t say one is better than the other either they're both pretty clean
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The pod cover is my personal choice. Kaare Andrewโ€™s work has progressed by leaps and bounds since doing the other cover.
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They really should have asked them to update it at a minimum.
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I had to get to both when they were originally released. ๐Ÿ’ธ
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Neomatrixology 20.10.2021. 23:07
I should have... I didn't know about the 2nd cover until it was too late
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A nice guide to navigate the archived matrix site (edited)
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Deleted User 1.11.2021. 21:23
whoa
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deja dead 6.12.2021. 0:09
Reading the comics now, just finished The Millerโ€™s Tale! One of my favorites so far for sure. More exploration of the machine-run surface world and deepening the lore with some of the traditions of the people of Zion! I also found this panel intriguing, as itโ€™s either a young Morpheus as we know him from the original trilogy, or a hint that perhaps the name โ€œMorpheusโ€ can be something of a role given to specific people, as has been theorized considering the casting in the new film.
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Oh wow looks like thereโ€™s been some discussion of this a little up thread. Iโ€™ll have to watch your video, @Neomatrixology !
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where on earth do you get the 20th anniversary edition of The Matrix Comics?
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I can't find it anywhere
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Goooooood luck!
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ive checked all about, it seems there's not many in the wild atm
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must have been a short ass run bro
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though hopefully there will be a reprint if ressurections goes well
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I think it was actually a pretty small run hah, idk for sure though
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i've only got Vol 2 myself, i haven't gone looking for the anniversary in a bit
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is there a way to read this without getting a physical copy?
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Not that I've checked, I'm sure scans are out there. I think the comics originally released online for free on whatisthematrix.com way back when? at least some of it did
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yeah, there must be around somewhere
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they are webcomics
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It was supposed to get a reprint end of Oct early Nov but I donโ€™t think that happened.
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this year?
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Yeah. Let me check a few places one tick
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maybe they're holding off until seeing how successful Resurrections is as Beleos said
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Wouldnโ€™t make sense from a production standpoint especially right now with backlogs and shipping issues. Which Iโ€™m assuming is the reason for the delay.
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Covid then
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Pretty much
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oh, yeah, if there was supposed to be a run this year, it's gotta be supply/manufacture issues, or the first run is hiding in a container somewhere
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sadly I don't even see a place to pre order those
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Amazon did have a listing saying they would ship Nov 5th I think. That got changed a few weeks later to โ€œunavailableโ€. Diamond Distribution also had it out in Previews that one was coming but their communication is absolute dog shit when something stalls
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was it available to buy before it got changed on Amazon?
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No, just a ship by date was added is all. They sold out early this year or late last (edited)
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shit I'm screwed then
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Maybe maybe not.
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If the movie does well or thereโ€™s more Matrix material down the road I could see it getting a reprint
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yeah I hope so
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I find it insane that The Matrix is over 20 years old
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way ahead of its time
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I found a cheeky link to the comics as well
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I'd buy them, but I cant
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I found a cheeky link to the comics as well
Neomatrixology 14.12.2021. 8:39
Can you share the link? I've been unable to finish a video because the link I was using no longer works. Need the images to a couple comics to finish
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Nic Der Hund 15.12.2021. 18:55
I'd love to read them myself, it's the final piece of the puzzle for me
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Thereโ€™s the French version of the 20th anniversary available but I donโ€™t speak bloody French lol
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Neomatrixology 17.12.2021. 18:34
"What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life." #TheMatrix may be able to provide some answers ๐Ÿ‡ @TheMatrixMovie in theaters and on @HBOMax 12.22.21. https://t.co/PEe7tZBKNB
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Pic is Oracle (Barbra Gordon) in her watchtower.
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i saw a nice AU where batman/bruce and superman/clark where in the matrix lol it was a fanman au but clark was neo in that AU
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red rockets
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Korฤ“/Diedorot 9.1.2022. 20:54
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Nice!
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What is this Batman Detective Comic about?
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flosha
What is this Batman Detective Comic about?
Korฤ“/Diedorot 10.1.2022. 18:27
DC did a movie poster crossover thingy: so itโ€™s just the cover.
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I see, thank you. Are all available Comics in this new comic collection or does that have any disadvantage?
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I see, thank you. Are all available Comics in this new comic collection or does that have any disadvantage?
Korฤ“/Diedorot 13.1.2022. 18:29
I am not familiar with the new collection.
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I see, thank you. Are all available Comics in this new comic collection or does that have any disadvantage?
The 20th Anni edition has 28/30 of the comics. Included in the 28 are all of the Matrix comics published in the other various editions. The two missing comics (The Man Who Knew Too Much & Morning Sickness) have never been put into print. TMWKTM was pulled from the website very early in its lifetime, so there might be a rights dispute. Morning Sickness was a group project done by Manex Visual Effects(vfx team for the movies) and probably has a rights issue as well. This 20th edition is likely going to be the closest we get to a definitive version.
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The 20th Anni edition has 28/30 of the comics. Included in the 28 are all of the Matrix comics published in the other various editions. The two missing comics (The Man Who Knew Too Much & Morning Sickness) have never been put into print. TMWKTM was pulled from the website very early in its lifetime, so there might be a rights dispute. Morning Sickness was a group project done by Manex Visual Effects(vfx team for the movies) and probably has a rights issue as well. This 20th edition is likely going to be the closest we get to a definitive version.
Thank you. And are the two comics you mentioned available somewhere?
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flosha
Thank you. And are the two comics you mentioned available somewhere?
Yeah, I have them, but I don't know this discord's policy on sharing pirated content
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Yeah, I have them, but I don't know this discord's policy on sharing pirated content
Itโ€™s against it. MetaLogic would make the final decision, but since itโ€™s someone elseโ€™s property, best not to encourage that behavior here.
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Would it maybe have been captured by the Way back Machine?
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Itโ€™s against it. MetaLogic would make the final decision, but since itโ€™s someone elseโ€™s property, best not to encourage that behavior here.
Agreed with this. Here we support the artist by legally buying their products.
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Metalogic
Agreed with this. Here we support the artist by legally buying their products.
The two issues have never been sold, only given away for free on the website
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Just for clarification
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Sorry, we don't do that here.
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Man who knew too much only 6 pages?
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I officially have all comics now in pdf. Not sure if I had them all previously.
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Sorry, we don't do that here.
you have an entire set of channels dedicated to a pirated video game, and link to a site to download said pirated video game
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and if any of the fan art doesnt have permission, then thats copyright infringement as well
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and matrix nfts? i doubt theyre officially licensed
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you have an entire set of channels dedicated to a pirated video game, and link to a site to download said pirated video game
where
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the matrix online?
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client was freely distributed on all gaming sites
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im sure that would hold up in court, when it uses official assets
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???
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the client wasnt what was being sold, the subscription was
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its like you can download WoW right now too for free from official sites, and all the patches
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and WoW shut down private servers
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Metalogic 17.1.2022. 1:54
Server is of @rajkosto own creation. He doesn't make any money off of this & we make no pretenses that we are an official server.
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so youre fine with specific pirated content
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and WoW shut down private servers
Calaeus (radiofreezion.net) 17.1.2022. 1:55
Entire server structure of mxoemu has been written from scratch by rajko's hand.
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Metalogic 17.1.2022. 1:55
Counter argument, this is my Discord Server & I'll make any damn rule I want.
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distributing the client isnt piracy, it was free to distribute (by any site that wanted to MIRROR it) even when the game was live (edited)
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Calaeus (radiofreezion.net)
Entire server structure of mxoemu has been written from scratch by rajko's hand.
recreating the art doesnt let you bypass copyright
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there is no art in the server (edited)
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Counter argument, this is my Discord Server & I'll make any damn rule I want.
thats fine, but it should be clear
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there is no art in the server (edited)
and theres no other files, just a server?
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in contrast, the matrix COMICS were sold like a year ago ? so definitely not abandonware
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the 2 i listed were never sold, only freely given away on the site
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to everyone ?
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yes
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Metalogic 17.1.2022. 1:57
Yea, MxO is ๐Ÿ’ฏ abandonware. We're not siphoning off anyone's source of income with the emulator that's not an emulator.
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but wasnt distribution deliberately stopped
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then they would not be ok to mirror
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id get banned for posting them, and probably for even pushing this topic, so im not posting them
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nobody here is a lawyer anyway, and lawyers would always be more safe than sorry
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the rule was added because of some chuckleheads openly asking about downloading the new movie... then was just mended to mean any piracy like it should (which is an implicit rule because of Discord TOS prohibiting it anyway) (edited)
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How is it not clear? You asked about it and got a direct answer.
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The two issues have never been sold, only given away for free on the website
Korฤ“/Diedorot 17.1.2022. 2:22
Thanks for letting us know they exist!
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How is it not clear? You asked about it and got a direct answer.
id rather just drop the conversation altogether, but its not clear, if things like art can be reposted without permission, and even if the server itself is clean, its deliberately being used for game piracy. abandonware or not, WB still owns the game. for 23 pictures that were freely distributed to everyone online to be banned, when it should fall under the same mental gymnastics as abandonware, its not that clear
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Thanks for letting us know they exist!
youre welcome, but i think it did more damage to my name than it was worth
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still saying distributing matrix online client is piracy when it was explained already ๐Ÿ˜ฉ
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Dude, weโ€™re just saying you can post and distribute here in our channel/server. Take your chances anywhere else. I do. I just donโ€™t do it here.
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youre welcome, but i think it did more damage to my name than it was worth
Korฤ“/Diedorot 17.1.2022. 2:47
Throughout my life Iโ€™ve had to correct people when they spelled my name Coryโ€ฆbut that has nothing to do with you. Youโ€™re GOOD! ๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿซ‚๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ โ€ฆI do know what your sayingโ€ฆ this is just my way of dismissing the idea that your name is damaged. ๐Ÿ˜‰ (edited)
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id rather just drop the conversation altogether, but its not clear, if things like art can be reposted without permission, and even if the server itself is clean, its deliberately being used for game piracy. abandonware or not, WB still owns the game. for 23 pictures that were freely distributed to everyone online to be banned, when it should fall under the same mental gymnastics as abandonware, its not that clear
Korฤ“/Diedorot 17.1.2022. 2:52
Iโ€™d like the โ€˜copyright attorneyโ€™ program uploaded to my ๐Ÿง  . I feel like thatโ€™d further my understanding of sooo much!
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How is it not clear? You asked about it and got a direct answer.
Korฤ“/Diedorot 17.1.2022. 2:53
Isnโ€™t everything โ€˜Matrixโ€™ related WB IP?
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I think only if itโ€™s released through WB. They donโ€™t do anything about fan fic. But get a piece of anything licensed, like the NFTs and vinyl pops
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Soren (not from guild, I'm baby) 18.1.2022. 23:18
Haha fuck... I was going to buy the matrix comics 20th anniversary edition but didn't get round to it... Now I can't find a copy in stock anywhere, I should have brought this like last year at least
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Soren (not from guild, I'm baby) 18.1.2022. 23:28
Someone's selling one for like £300 I feel like such a ๐Ÿคก
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I think they were already gone by then? Got mine 2 years ago, hope there's another run of them
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Wow, that's ridiculous
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Soren (not from guild, I'm baby) 18.1.2022. 23:29
I could have sworn I essentially followed a second hand one on Amazon
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That I was going to buy eventually
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Oh second hand, yeah possibly. How much? Also have you tried any local shops?
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Soren (not from guild, I'm baby) 18.1.2022. 23:32
I thought that one was for less than like £30 but I added it to a wish list like at least a year ago. I didn't expect for them to seemingly suddenly stop being sold secondhand. I don't think I'm lucky to find anything, what sort of shops? Also COVID ๐Ÿ˜ฌ
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I thought that one was for less than like £30 but I added it to a wish list like at least a year ago. I didn't expect for them to seemingly suddenly stop being sold secondhand. I don't think I'm lucky to find anything, what sort of shops? Also COVID ๐Ÿ˜ฌ
Comic Book Shops. :D
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Soren (not from guild, I'm baby) 19.1.2022. 10:41
I've been to a few before and had no luck unfortunately
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Deleted User 4.5.2022. 1:05
I have a hard time finding the copy of 20th for reasonable sale too. Either bunch of ridiculous prices, a little of too high ones for just a comic or mostly just unavaible at all... :/ (edited)
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the fuck? Wasn't there rumor of another printing?
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Deleted User 4.5.2022. 1:20
It seems that it became a collectible ๐Ÿ˜„
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the fuck? Wasn't there rumor of another printing?
Deleted User 4.5.2022. 1:21
From what I've read, there was some additional printing but seemingly it sold out quickly
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Weak. Picked mine up for like 40 bucks, dunno if 'collectible' and 'scalper' are the same thing tho
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Looks like the second printing was bought up by scalpers :( (edited)
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Metalogic 4.5.2022. 1:24
Yea, I got mine at $40 as well.
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Deleted User 4.5.2022. 1:25
that's a good price
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I'm outside of US however, so I have harder time to find something
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Are you happy with these comics? I got hyped for these, because I really loved side-stories from Animatrix and expect some similiar quality from comics too.
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They're ridiculously priced for anyone right now. They were around 40 USD for anyone when they first came out.
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Deleted User 4.5.2022. 1:43
I see. The best offer I've seen in my area is ~60 USD. Not that bad, but still that's a lot if you exchange it to my native currency. ๐Ÿ˜„ (edited)
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They're absolutely worth reading, and the book is really nice. 60 USD is not bad, considering every copy that's easy to find seems to be going for 250-350 USD
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I'd only pay that (60 USD) if you're really into collecting Matrix stuff tho. The PDFs of the comics are available on the web somewhere (edited)
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Deleted User 4.5.2022. 1:55
I am really into it. I looked for some PDFs but didn't find any at all.
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They're absolutely worth reading, and the book is really nice. 60 USD is not bad, considering every copy that's easy to find seems to be going for 250-350 USD
Deleted User 4.5.2022. 2:19
Nevermind, I ordered it anyway. 40 usd vs 60 usd is not that big difference for really valuable content. Thanks for the info. ๐Ÿ˜„
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Glad you found it for a fairly reasonable price
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Deleted User 4.5.2022. 2:34
I'm glad as well. It was a nice deal anyway ๐Ÿ˜„
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I got my comics for 20ish buck used then the 20th anniversary copy for 60 bucks. Unfortunately the used comics were sun damaged and colors were faded but still readable, except volume 1 the glue was weak and the book needs to be handled carefully
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Deleted User 4.5.2022. 2:52
That's the price for the used volumen. I bet it was worth it anyway ๐Ÿ˜„
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They are minus the fact the inside cover has the public library stamps and the colors are faded out
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Deleted User 13.5.2022. 23:04
" There are no flowers in the real world " made me genuinely sad. That was a really good story. (edited)
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Neomatrixology 20.5.2022. 20:03
The Matrix Comics are a group of short stories, comics and pin-ups set in the Matrix universe. Originally published in 1999 on the Matrix website, ahead
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wew third wave buyers!
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No mention of quantity :/
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zenconnection 20.5.2022. 20:29
maybe i will finally own a copy
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maybe i will finally own a copy
I would try to pre-order just in case they fly off the shelves
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Scalpers abound
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They've already seen the insane prices people have paid, you know those assholes are going to scoop up as many as possible
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@zenconnection Honestly if you are serious about owning it, I'd preorder for sure
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Too bad the 3 printings don't have some distinguishing marks on the copyright page. I mean, they're all first edition, it's just another run, but still.
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Oh wait, if the third printing is going for $50, it might have a different ISBN?
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That's from mine, anyone have a 2nd printing they can compare that to? And also, when people start getting the third printing, can someone post that?
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Barcode is useless for determine prints on trades and hardcovers. Yโ€™all need to check the inca specifically by the copyright info.
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ISBN wonโ€™t change because of a price. Would need to be and entirely different formatting to get that
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Barcode is useless for determine prints on trades and hardcovers. Yโ€™all need to check the inca specifically by the copyright info.
I'm guessing this isn't what you mean : /
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Nope thatโ€™s exactly where the info would be.
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Fwiw I donโ€™t think there actually was a second printing. Just using old stock that hadnโ€™t been ordered from a distributor yet. A month ago you could still order the HC directly from burlyman entertainment.
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Interesting, the second printing was widely rumored, but then again, this is the internet. I saw no official sources.
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Hopefully someone here gets one of these new printings so we can compare
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three towers in this one, four in that one the key is in the left hand, the keys are in his right hand
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You have my permission to investigate further, Mr. Corso
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"My orgy days are over"
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I wish I knew how many times I've seen that flick
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y u bring this up now zajko?
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Oh
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lol
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nvm
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If the Telfer copy turns out to be a forgery, your work is done. (or something like that)
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by any means necessary
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Proceed as arranged, and you can tack another zero onto your fee.
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By any means necessary sounds illegal
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@rajkosto "At all costs"
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not "by any means necessary"
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Corso: "At all costs sounds illegal."
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zenconnection 26.5.2022. 19:14
maybe my brain is bad but it doesnt seem like that site lets you pre order? i signed up and all i can do is a "save it to my watchlist" sort of thing
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"I think you got a FINE brain, Jack!"
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Lol thatโ€™s because that site is only for businesses to places their orders through. Theyโ€™re a distributor. Comic shops can order through there. Amazon and B&N will have them for sale two weeks after
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Snapped these fellas up off the eBay . £16 a good price?
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Snapped these fellas up off the eBay . £16 a good price?
Neomatrixology 28.7.2022. 21:24
I think I paid between 10-15$ each US but that was before Resurrections came out, so I would say that was a very good price if you got both for that number. What I would say is that the paperbacks glue does not hold up well against the test of time and the pages are very flimsy after all these years. Handle with caution. I strongly recommend the hard cover 20th anniversary edition. I pre-ordered one from the local comic book shop so that I have a back up (edited)
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Arrived today say first edition on them
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2003/4 on the copywriters
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wrong server lol
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HumanBeing 4.11.2022. 21:44
They should just make more comics....
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if nothing else
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HumanBeing 5.11.2022. 0:30
Also Transmetropolitan
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They should just make more comics....
Neomatrixology 6.11.2022. 19:54
I'm working on something....
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I'm working on something....
HumanBeing 9.11.2022. 2:15
Lily Wachowski has a Twitter and she sometimes responds!
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Hope they can be involved, at least how they were with Matrix Awakens
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Metalogic 9.11.2022. 2:17
I think Lana is the only one still involved in The Matrix, I think Lily has moved on
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Lily is working on her own stuff she wrote a sitcom not long ago
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In an interview she said that she refused to work on the fourth Matrix because it was tough for her to go back to something she did before transitioning
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Good reason
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Deleted User 1.12.2022. 16:07
Noto sure where to post this but I'm working on a few short stories set in the matrix
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Neomatrixology
I think I paid between 10-15$ each US but that was before Resurrections came out, so I would say that was a very good price if you got both for that number. What I would say is that the paperbacks glue does not hold up well against the test of time and the pages are very flimsy after all these years. Handle with caution. I strongly recommend the hard cover 20th anniversary edition. I pre-ordered one from the local comic book shop so that I have a back up (edited)
These are back in stock on amazon UK... And for normal price, for anyone still looking for a copy.
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These are back in stock on amazon UK... And for normal price, for anyone still looking for a copy.
Neomatrixology 27.12.2022. 21:31
I do own a copy, but I know there are people online still searching. At this point seeing is believing, I put in an order during the summer still haven't heard anything back. Bunch of stores say they can get it, but then nothing happens idk what's going on with it here in the states... might be more lawsuit issues but I honestly don't know what the issue is
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Yeah, I emailed BM direct, offering to pay for shipping and whatever else but never got a reply. I'd been trying for years tbh and had all but given up. Not sure what made me go back and check but glad I did!
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These are back in stock on amazon UK... And for normal price, for anyone still looking for a copy.
i have an unopened hardcover version of the 20th anniversary edition but cool to hear the volume 1 & 2 are back in stock. i went to check (US Amazon) and Vol 1 was $34 with 1 left in stock and i think Vol 2 was $11 through resale new (a used one was going for $35!) (edited)
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Does someone gets the meaning of the comic named โ€œButterflyโ€? I saw it in the 20th anniversary edition.
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Does someone gets the meaning of the comic named โ€œButterflyโ€? I saw it in the 20th anniversary edition.
NeoMatrixology has a great video on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYlXruA1wkg
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NeoMatrixology has a great video on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYlXruA1wkg
thanks, now Iโ€™m getting a taste of Zhuangzi
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Noob question on the comics. What do you guys recommend reading comics wise? I found this and it appeared good. Just not very descriptive on whatโ€™s in it. https://www.amazon.com/Matrix-Comics-20th-Anniversary/dp/1932700579/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=RKX8GJOFL6YN&keywords=matrix+comics&qid=1680638050&sprefix=mateix+comic%2Caps%2C229&sr=8-1
28 stories set in the world of the Matrix, with nearly 100 pages of never before published material, including four new to print stories. These stories began releasing in the lead up to the release of the original film, back in 1999, entirely online. Right from the beginning, they featured the wo...
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Noob question on the comics. What do you guys recommend reading comics wise? I found this and it appeared good. Just not very descriptive on whatโ€™s in it. https://www.amazon.com/Matrix-Comics-20th-Anniversary/dp/1932700579/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=RKX8GJOFL6YN&keywords=matrix+comics&qid=1680638050&sprefix=mateix+comic%2Caps%2C229&sr=8-1
Metalogic 4.4.2023. 22:01
It has all the comics in it and you should read them all.
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Sweetness. Getting it
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Awwwww yeah
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Awwwww yeah
Metalogic 6.4.2023. 0:02
Nice! (edited)
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It has all the comics in it and you should read them all.
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Good enough for government work. And nice to have it in one place
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Indeed. Glad it's available again, it was going for stupid money for a good while
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Oh really?
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Wow
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Metalogic 6.4.2023. 1:23
There's always scalpers.
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Hopefully they're left with a bunch of stock now that it's available again
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This was $40 on Amazon so it must be
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I see what they mean. It does seem disjointed and just random insights of the matrix timeline
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Was expected a continuation
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I got most of the other comics on the drive
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I'm probably missing a few from the old Matrix website
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Would love to know which one if anybody knows
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I got most of the other comics on the drive
Thank you for sharing!
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Neomatrixology 15.5.2023. 17:55
It's finally live! The Agent Syndicate is a comic script inspired by the Matrix NFT Avatars: https://agentsyndicate.online/
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I believe they didn't print everything. There were two more story's never published on paper so I guess they will be called "Lost Episodes"
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๐๐ซ๐ฎ๐ญ๐ฎ๐ฌ 8.6.2023. 9:13
Although Warner Bros already has DC, The Matrix would probably be a good comic series in the hands of IDW comics.
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Deleted User 29.9.2023. 0:51
Oh shit they are real
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I guess I never saw this chat
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There was one released in select theaters at the releast of the first one, the rest were online only
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More recently there was a 20th anniversary hardcover that's absolutely worth picking up imo, grabbed it as soon as it was available
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They're commissioned stories by lots of different artists
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Deleted User 29.9.2023. 0:52
Oh cool cool.. I don't really have the extra cash but i might check them out!
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So don't expect them to be 100% canon
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During the mad rush when Resurrections was coming out, the prices got fucking insane. But I think now they're back to normal
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Deleted User 29.9.2023. 0:54
Yeah I kinda assumed that they arent canon
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They're canon-ish, but as so many came out before the first film, a lot can't really be. The artist/authors were asked to create stories in the universe
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Great stuff
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Yeah I kinda assumed that they arent canon
Only a handful are canons, mostly the ones written by The Wachowskis and Chadwick
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More recently there was a 20th anniversary hardcover that's absolutely worth picking up imo, grabbed it as soon as it was available
Malum In Se 30.9.2023. 17:46
Just got my hardcover 20th anniverary edition. Now I want to get the alternative cover version, and the Burley Man cover variant.
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Just got my hardcover 20th anniverary edition. Now I want to get the alternative cover version, and the Burley Man cover variant.
Huh, I've got the pod cover, only other one I've seen is the Trinity cover. Do you have a link to the Burly Man cover?
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This maybe the Trinity cover you refer to, as well.
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Hmm, it seems the 3rd cover variant I believe I saw I can not find anywhere. I must have mismatched the cover with another comic and got the names mixed up.
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Is the lost comic 'The Man Who Knew Too Much' in the 20th anniverary edition? I have yet to read it.
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Yep, that's the Trinity and Pod covers (edited)
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Yep, that's the Trinity and Pod covers (edited)
Malum In Se 30.9.2023. 18:36
I just need to get the Trinity variant. Have the two paperbacks, as well.
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Got my 20th anniversary edition book through today woohoo, read pretty much all of them before but nice to have a physical copy
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Which cover?
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The pod cover
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Does anyone know any matrix comics that take place during the machine war? (Second Renaissance to be exact)
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Does anyone know any matrix comics that take place during the machine war? (Second Renaissance to be exact)
I don't think there are any except one that takes place before the war but it's not what you're looking for.
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Sweetmeat Shade 30.3.2024. 9:47
Which one is that?
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Joshua007 6.4.2024. 12:57
The story were the Butler kills his owner, it's the start of the revolution the uprising of the Machines. Different story but worth mentioning in my opinion.
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Deleted User 24.5.2024. 9:40
I want to read the comics but I want it PDF
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To print it
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Where can I find it?
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The story were the Butler kills his owner, it's the start of the revolution the uprising of the Machines. Different story but worth mentioning in my opinion.
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Yeah, I was really looking for a comic that occurred during the machine war since I heard somewhere that in the comics, the machine war occurred over decades and humanity was pretty much mentally fortified and ready for war (edited)
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I bought the comics - the binding all fell apart. Really bad quality. PDF is the way to go.
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I bought the comics - the binding all fell apart. Really bad quality. PDF is the way to go.
The hardcover?
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Never had trouble with mine
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Me either, picked it up in 2019?
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Maybe cuz I picked mine up at a later date. Opened it to about 160 degrees so I could read everything and two pages fell out. Could be because it's so old, but they looked pristine.
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Wonder if it was stored improperly and got extremely hot, or maybe just bad luck and that particular one was defective. That sucks, I haven't heard anyone have an issue like that yet. Sorry yours didn't work out, how much did you pay for it?
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The hardcover?
Sounds like the original volumes
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