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The chat channel for community missions. Please check out #mxo-faq if you haven't already!

Welcome to #mission-chat! This is the discussion channel for all things community missions related.

now people finally have a place to ask "is combat working? how do I start missions?"

LOLFACEMATRIX

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I really wanted to name the channels #community-missions-news and #community-missions-chat but that's way too long

Where do i download the game again?

spooks

Where do i download the game again?

https://mxoemu.info Take a look at #mxo-faq (edited)

my bad. the one channel i didn't look in. thanks

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This is an exciting leap forward for the emulator! So they were able to figure out how to reverse engineer this particular mechanic? Or has this function been known and is only now being used?

B.B.

This is an exciting leap forward for the emulator! So they were able to figure out how to reverse engineer this particular mechanic? Or has this function been known and is only now being used?

Rajko would have have to speak to the specifics, but basically he was able to implement mission functionality. To be clear, these aren't the original game missions, these are created and run by dedicated community members.

15:30

There are two community mission campaigns, I recommend checking out both as they're very different. One is run by RedEye, the other by PlugAndPlay. You'll see their updates in #cmnty-mish-news . You can see PlugAndPlay's mission stats here: https://discord.com/channels/137006126100250624/1086793134698135643/1266622950572953682

bitbomb

Rajko would have have to speak to the specifics, but basically he was able to implement mission functionality. To be clear, these aren't the original game missions, these are created and run by dedicated community members.

I see. Just curious. I'm excited to see what folks dreamed up in terms of the content of the mission. And I'm excited to see that there might be some more community engagement.

There's teaser/story information for missions in #roleplay-ic

I’m a newb and have Ben lurking in the discord for some time reading up on updates and such, but are these missions hard coded into the game so I can go back whenever I want to play them or are they hosted from another online player/ moderator for that specific time ? Big thanks to the dev for their hard work and everyone who has helped

the mission contact person must be online and actively running it (edited)

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Gif banned me =P

16:34

Finally Rajko's dreams have come true.

16:37

Testing a gif post

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16:38

Hurray lol I didn't get banned. =P

Like magic

16:38

Shitty, poorly rehearsed magic

Anyone know the map coordinates for "Mara Central Church"? (edited)

18:29

172 5 28 nvm

It's probably easiest to hardline to Mara C, the church is facing the hardline. Depending on what you're trying to do.

Not sure what i am trying to do, just know there is some event on.

Ah gotcha. Then I'd hardline to Mara Central

i'm there, thanks for info

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18:42

So in two hours i'll come back here, then everything should make more sense?

Yep, as Rajko stated: https://discord.com/channels/137006126100250624/1284286713320964210/1284515575049093161

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18:47

They're not persistent

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Yeah I'm at Mara Central not sure what's going on though

Wish I could be there. I would love to get in on some MxO.

Winglessss

Yeah I'm at Mara Central not sure what's going on though

https://discord.com/channels/137006126100250624/1284286397833941054/1284523784807911506

Is combat working?

clonedmuchacho

Is combat working?

Please refer to #mxo-faq for all basic questions, but at this time, not yet. (edited)

It is recommend that anyone playing the mission today should meet in Mara Central and start forming mission parties!

I'll be monitoring this chat for questions people might have.

Man I was hoping I would make it for the mission, have some things to take care of

Nic Der Hund

Man I was hoping I would make it for the mission, have some things to take care of

There will be many more in the future! =) Hope you can make the future ones. breathtaking

breathtaking

It's nice to see you all having so much fun =)

sorry for leaving so soon! having a bit of family trouble, hopefully will be able to hop back on later

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TP command please?

&gotopos or &gotoplayer

train isnt coming

21:36

ah ok

type &reappear

21:36

Sometimes the train is invisible

21:37

If the train does not appear, type &reappear

that just black screened me lmao

21:37

nvm im back

21:39

cant talk to Haesook?

21:40

the button just doesnt show up

21:41

got it

This is great so far

I'm at Mara C and there's a lot going on lol

Go to the church

22:04

It's across from Mara C

The Informant is located Mara Central @x191 y5 z97

How do i get into the church lol

Double click the door

i always was partial to hitting TAB while hovering over it myself

I forgot you could do that thanks and awesome work on all this bro

Winglessss

Double click the door

Managed to get in

22:41

Had to reload

Last call for missions. Gonna shut down the NPCs in 7 minutes!

This was really cool

that was brilliant

Glad everyone had fun. See you at the next one!

I'm sorry that I missed this! I was in a car wreck (I'm fine) and waiting forever on the cops when I thought "fuck, I'm going to miss that MxO event".

B.B.

I'm sorry that I missed this! I was in a car wreck (I'm fine) and waiting forever on the cops when I thought "fuck, I'm going to miss that MxO event".

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B.B.

I'm sorry that I missed this! I was in a car wreck (I'm fine) and waiting forever on the cops when I thought "fuck, I'm going to miss that MxO event".

That last sentence is something nobody has said since 2009 (edited)

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0:48

Hell maybe even 2008

Hey, just curious since I haven’t been on in a long time, what are these missions?

21:19

Is there a reboot of MXO?

Kernel

Is there a reboot of MXO?

Hey put my rock back!

22:41

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-starfish-gif-26051014

Kernel

Is there a reboot of MXO?

Have you not come across the MxO Emu?

No

(Found the FAQ and stuff. Reading about it now)

Kernel

(Found the FAQ and stuff. Reading about it now)

Good idea! You should definitely jump into the emu if you're a fan of the Matrix or MxO.

What time on any given Saturday would you want to run MxO missions? (Choosing does not sign you up or commit you to any mission)

= 18:00

= 19:00

= 20:00

= 21:00

= 22:00 ❤️ = 23:00

= 0:00 Choose any:

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7:30

‍⬛ What time on any given Sunday would you want to run MxO missions? (Choosing does not sign you up or commit you to any mission)

= 18:00

= 19:00

= 20:00

= 21:00

= 22:00 ❤️ = 23:00

= 0:00 Choose any: (edited)

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By choosing one or more of the times listed above, you will be helping me decide when to offer missions. The number of unique selections will also tell me how many people are interested in missions. Please make at least one selection, even if none represent your preferred time. Thank you.

Which timezone?

It uses your local times

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Ouranos

Which timezone?

The times listed auto-magically adjust to your time zone.

Nobody wants to upset the perfect balance of 1s

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rajkosto

Nobody wants to upset the perfect balance of 1s

Or no one checks mission chat lol

went down the rabbit hole of forums checking to see if there's any news on more updates to the Emulator......now here i am.....hi? (edited)

Clonest

went down the rabbit hole of forums checking to see if there's any news on more updates to the Emulator......now here i am.....hi? (edited)

Welcome! We have a team that has crafted some missions despite the original mission system being extremely difficult to reverse engineer. Combat has been a bitch, too.

neo

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Vesuveus

Welcome! We have a team that has crafted some missions despite the original mission system being extremely difficult to reverse engineer. Combat has been a bitch, too.

ah good to know at least something is brewing

PlugAndPlay

‍⬛ What time on any given Sunday would you want to run MxO missions? (Choosing does not sign you up or commit you to any mission)

= 18:00

= 19:00

= 20:00

= 21:00

= 22:00 ❤️ = 23:00

= 0:00 Choose any: (edited)

These are valuable bits of information for me as well so thanks for these.

https://discord.com/channels/137006126100250624/1284286397833941054/1299848700109000758

heyyy how do i teleport again

Depends on where you want to go

2:13

&gotoplayer to teleport to a player

2:13

&gotopos to go to a location

Mission complete!

18:02

Gonna share some screenshots later but I don't wanna spoil it, it was fun

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suijin

Gonna share some screenshots later but I don't wanna spoil it, it was fun

Looking forward to your screenshots. The last 3 words you typed are the reason I create and host missions. Thank you.

Hi, Can I request someone post a guide for how to use the mission tool?

I would be interested in writing some missions too

This would be awesome

I would also like to know this.

Ouranos

I would be interested in writing some missions too

sorry I should rephrase it

11:41

I would like to build this community on my own by writing the official continuation of the MxO storyline for an iminent rerelease of the game (edited)

11:41

Thank you in advance for helping me get the tools to do that

FrozenFire

Hi, Can I request someone post a guide for how to use the mission tool?

things in [] are optional parameters /t mish start Mission_Name Org Contact [Mission Text...] - Start Mission /t mish finish/fail/timeout/abort - End Mission /t mish phase ConstructID SectorID AreaID [bldg:Xcm,Ycm,Zcm] [elev:Xcm,Ycm,Zcm] [Phase Text...] - Start new mission phase (clears goals/objectives), bldg and elev are breadcrumb waypoint positions of Building Entry Door and Elevator Entry Door (optional), if phase text is provided, it is added to log and replaces previous phase/mission text, use /whereami to get Sector and Area ID when inside an indoor mission area, ConstructID is 1 for Richland, 2 for Downtown, 3 for Intl (shown as first part of object id when you interact with one) /t mish door/locked/badge/alarm/trap/objective/waypoint Xcm Ycm Zcm [StaticID] - Add/Update map objective, StaticID is optional (only needed for highlighting the object), otherwise is static object id shown when you interact with one /t mish clear - Clear all map objectives /t mish goal/goaldone/goalfail/goalhide Goal Text... - Add/Update goal /t mish goaldoall -Complete all goals

bitbomb pinned a message to this channel. 7.11.2024. 16:11

Thanks!

16:44

@PlugAndPlay do you know when you’ll do your next missions? I would love to check them out

Ouranos

@PlugAndPlay do you know when you’ll do your next missions? I would love to check them out

this. Also curious so I don't keep wasting time, I keep popping into the area to begin at random times but have never seen the starting mission giver

@Ouranos @![FA] Adrenaline | RockNRollGeek a mission will be available soon: https://discord.com/channels/137006126100250624/1284286397833941054/1304935317924741172

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As for ours, we're currently developing the quest chains from level 1 to 10. Organising phases, npc placement, missions scripts, and routes, as well as XP and info distribution, making sure to stick with lore and advancing the story. We're hoping to debut some of them in Alpha in the new year.

So many questions

To the people that are interested in mission construction: Would you like me to upload a small example text file of a simple mission with instructions on how to run it?

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️ @Ouranos, @bitbomb, @Metalogic, @FrozenFire

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That sounds good to me.

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It seems complicated at first, but it's not as hard as it seems. There are a number of limitations though such as waypoints not being available from different areas of the map. Example: You cannot give someone a phase\door way point in Mara for a location in Moriah. You need to station someone in that region for them to get the waypoint. That's why we utilise Hardlines and Subways.

4:52

Floating waypoints also don't work the way you want them to. You can only place one per mission. If the player walks over it, the waypoint clears but no additional waypoints are possible. You have to end the mission and start a new one and even then they don't work. So bread crumb waypoints aren't possible.

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The best I have found that works is to place the waypoint out of reach, clear them at the next NPC and then set a new one. And even then that doesn't always work.

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These are limitations you'll have to learn, in time. I write python codes for my NPCs to do most of this.

4:54

My NPCs are nearly automated.

Ouranos

@PlugAndPlay do you know when you’ll do your next missions? I would love to check them out

Usually weekends, but sometimes late at night during the week. If you tell me some times when you'd like to run it, I'll try to arrange a time for you.

I can also help answer questions. I was part of the roll out of this so I've been through the common errors we faced in the roll out and what some glitches come along the way. Through running missions through server events, I've streamlined a lot of issues and found work arounds that got through this tool. There are still many bugs and limitations. But if you're looking for a basic experience, this can do that.

Example_Mission.txt

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I made this mission to specifically show how the parts work. This is not the only way to run missions, but it is simple and easy. (edited)

6:26

Using the above outline, anyone can host and run missions. It's just a bunch of macros.

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Let me know if you'd like help setting this up, or if you have any questions.

Thanks - this is really helpful

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breathtaking

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PlugAndPlay

I made this mission to specifically show how the parts work. This is not the only way to run missions, but it is simple and easy. (edited)

Awesome

PlugAndPlay

Usually weekends, but sometimes late at night during the week. If you tell me some times when you'd like to run it, I'll try to arrange a time for you.

Late at night on which time zone?

Ouranos

Late at night on which time zone?

PST

This might be more helpful: Between 5:00 and 9:00 ( these times auto-adjust to your time zone )

https://tenor.com/view/nosferatu-horror-vampire-count-orlok-1920s-gif-11650031842696618006 for EU folks (edited)

Yeah that’s between 5am and 9am for me

wait, if you hover over them, the start time is after the end time

I’m on my phone

rajkosto

wait, if you hover over them, the start time is after the end time

Those are example times for my typical weekday evening availability (PST); in this case, the date does not matter. Official announcements about mission availability will be made here: https://discord.com/channels/137006126100250624/1284286397833941054

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PlugAndPlay

Those are example times for my typical weekday evening availability (PST); in this case, the date does not matter. Official announcements about mission availability will be made here: https://discord.com/channels/137006126100250624/1284286397833941054

I have some dumb questions: Are they set after the official storyline or during? Is it Zion centered or for every org?

11:59

Wouldn’t mind reading a little synopsis

Ouranos

I have some dumb questions: Are they set after the official storyline or during? Is it Zion centered or for every org?

My missions are not intended to write, or re-write, any story lines involving any timelines or characters whatsoever. They are extremely generic, non-org-specific, very loosely connected chain of events, forming a very basic story line created to support the missions at hand. They involve simple tasks that involve non-canon characters I created to perform the mission duties, nothing more. They are for fun only, and in at least one case, rewards. In this respect, they stand alone. The closest thing to a synopsis can be found here: https://discord.com/channels/137006126100250624/1284286397833941054/1304674898182144092

PlugAndPlay

My missions are not intended to write, or re-write, any story lines involving any timelines or characters whatsoever. They are extremely generic, non-org-specific, very loosely connected chain of events, forming a very basic story line created to support the missions at hand. They involve simple tasks that involve non-canon characters I created to perform the mission duties, nothing more. They are for fun only, and in at least one case, rewards. In this respect, they stand alone. The closest thing to a synopsis can be found here: https://discord.com/channels/137006126100250624/1284286397833941054/1304674898182144092

Nice! That’s the best way to start tbh going back to basics before going too big

Ouranos

Nice! That’s the best way to start tbh going back to basics before going too big

There is a little RP built into every mission. This https://discord.com/channels/137006126100250624/1086793053588697188/1256731093596373053 story bit may have something to do with some of my missions, but you'd have to run them to find out.

Sadly it seems like I live in the wrong timezone

Do any of these times work? https://discord.com/channels/137006126100250624/1284286713320964210/1293807819476439141

12:56

I usually can run missions within these times on the weekends. (This information is for everyone, as well.)

What's going on with the missions after the first one

Everyone reading this, please vote at the link I just indicated above, so I know when to offer missions.

rajkosto

What's going on with the missions after the first one

the second one

I mean they were available once but not again

I revised them, so there is continuity between them, and so they fit the loosely connected story line I was talking about earlier.

13:05

Each mission takes a considerable amount of my time. I am a 1-man show. I cannot offer them all at once, there aren't enough of me. So, I will release them one at a time, in sequence, probably a month apart in the near future. I also want people to get a little hungry for it too. It tastes sweeter that way.

13:11

At some point, I may get organized enough to offer them all at once, so the player may choose between them. But, that will require a higher level of organization and implementation that I am currently not capable of performing. Perhaps someday...

Yeah I would have loved to make missions but I don’t have the time or the energy

13:14

I can only write them

13:14

But not a lot of people know the actual story of the game around here

13:15

Reviving the critical missions would be a good idea for new players but still too complicated

I created a new poll, for weekend missions. Everyone who is interested, please vote here: https://discord.com/channels/137006126100250624/1284286397833941054/1307689534011474011

13:53

Oops.. I may want to fix that.. one sec..

13:54

Bummer dude.. it didn't work.

13:54

Auto-adjust times don't work inside a poll (I guess)

13:57

I guess we'll do it the old-fashioned way.

OK, it is fixed. Everyone who is interested, please vote.

Voted!

14:06

Huh, gifs won’t work anymore

Rajko hates gifs lol

I can't wait til more of the community missions are complete

PlugAndPlay

Each mission takes a considerable amount of my time. I am a 1-man show. I cannot offer them all at once, there aren't enough of me. So, I will release them one at a time, in sequence, probably a month apart in the near future. I also want people to get a little hungry for it too. It tastes sweeter that way.

I've definitely been hyped for when the next mission drops

23:28

I really liked some of the teases that were in the last one

Would you rather run 6 short MxO style missions, with little or no reward? Or, would you rather run 1 long mission with multiple phases across all 3 districts, much like "Save The Historian" with a similar reward? The reason I'm asking for input is that I am seriously thinking about combining the 6 short missions into 1 long mission. This would be easier for me to manage (I think), and would turn my 1 long and 6 short missions into 2 epic missions. Thank you in advance for any and all comments, questions, and/or suggestions you have. (edited)

I think that'd be fun, but it does bring me to my main critique of the last one: it's been a few weeks or however long and if I'm being honest, I don't recall what much of the narrative was, but not just now, even right after it happened; The time crunch I think being the reason. I was so focused on getting from point to point and making sure I could figure out what I was doing, and being able to do it in the very tight time window that any npc communication/story or audio kinda was on the backburner of my attention :/ I feel like there was probably some good story happening, but yeah, that time crunch made it super difficult to absorb

PlugAndPlay

Would you rather run 6 short MxO style missions, with little or no reward? Or, would you rather run 1 long mission with multiple phases across all 3 districts, much like "Save The Historian" with a similar reward? The reason I'm asking for input is that I am seriously thinking about combining the 6 short missions into 1 long mission. This would be easier for me to manage (I think), and would turn my 1 long and 6 short missions into 2 epic missions. Thank you in advance for any and all comments, questions, and/or suggestions you have. (edited)

Having been on the mission making side, I find it would be better to make longer missions, instead of individual ones unless you python code the individual ones. Since we have to control the NPCs manually, having so many windows open to update objectives and try to keep track of the progress of everyone has proven difficult for even simple mission schemes. This why there is a limitation on your availability of each mission. The real question is what mission length is too long? Some of my longer missions have had people leave mid way due to being unable/unwilling to finish them. For our Alpha, we plan to wrap a series of missions into one long adventure. We're plan to have play testers give feedback in length and see what improvements can be made to streamline it. Let me know what you find works better.

Please note one thing about the missions I am writing: They are not an attempt at any kind of real story. My missions are for the sake of missions and fun only. The characters are created and say only what is necessary to complete the mission. All of my characters are non-org-specific. Your operator is "Operator" (and RABBIT). If you want a real story from me, I have already made one up here: https://discord.com/channels/137006126100250624/1086793053588697188/1099946215304597525 It took me about a year to write, and I have no plans to attempt any more. Possibly in the future, but for now, none.

Also, to clear up any confusion about the end of the mission: The reward at the end of "Save The Historian" is not part of the mission. It is a story, and involves Niobe, Morpheus, etc., but is not my story, nor did I make it up. I found it in the archives, and wanted a way to present it to people. So, I created the reward Audio CD at the end of the mission. I wanted to make the audio interesting, so I created a character (Bitmap) that will "playback" (act out in the form of the characters) Audio CDs if you give one to her with a special code word you earned at mission completion. The mission was over when you saved the historian Urchin. Bitmap will be used again at the end of the next epic mission, and you will earn another reward that will be a new code word and another Audio CD; which means I found more stuff in the archives for you to hear (and see).

To everyone on this https://discord.com/channels/137006126100250624/1284286397833941054/1304022679182901248 list. You were given an Audio CD and a code word as a reward at the end of "Save The Historian". This is a reminder: You may, at any time, request that Bitmap be made available in Camon Heights Park, and I will try to make it so. You can then replay the Audio CD again (as long as you remember the playback code). Bitmap is just like a CD-ROM player. Give her the Audio CD and the code word, and she will play it back, and then eject, or return the Audio CD to you.

And, in the end, when all the missions are said and done, We suddenly realize it's all just for fun!

PlugAndPlay

Would you rather run 6 short MxO style missions, with little or no reward? Or, would you rather run 1 long mission with multiple phases across all 3 districts, much like "Save The Historian" with a similar reward? The reason I'm asking for input is that I am seriously thinking about combining the 6 short missions into 1 long mission. This would be easier for me to manage (I think), and would turn my 1 long and 6 short missions into 2 epic missions. Thank you in advance for any and all comments, questions, and/or suggestions you have. (edited)

Yo, I know I'm about a week late but personally I liked the long form structure with a cool reward at the end

Help RABBIT save the historian. The mission "Save The Historian" will be live 4 times this weekend. See details here: https://discord.com/channels/137006126100250624/1284286397833941054/1314916902581043211

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![FA] Adrenaline | RockNRollGeek

I think that'd be fun, but it does bring me to my main critique of the last one: it's been a few weeks or however long and if I'm being honest, I don't recall what much of the narrative was, but not just now, even right after it happened; The time crunch I think being the reason. I was so focused on getting from point to point and making sure I could figure out what I was doing, and being able to do it in the very tight time window that any npc communication/story or audio kinda was on the backburner of my attention :/ I feel like there was probably some good story happening, but yeah, that time crunch made it super difficult to absorb

"Time Pressure" was added to increase the level of urgency for the saving of someone who's life hangs in the balance. Since the mission was a bit long, it was also added to move the players a bit faster from point A to point B without too much delay. It also gets the Adrenalin going, too.. kinda like a real mission.

PlugAndPlay

"Time Pressure" was added to increase the level of urgency for the saving of someone who's life hangs in the balance. Since the mission was a bit long, it was also added to move the players a bit faster from point A to point B without too much delay. It also gets the Adrenalin going, too.. kinda like a real mission.

What did you change to add "time pressure"?

[WEPN Radio]RedEye

What did you change to add "time pressure"?

it was like a 20 or 30 minute window to complete the whole thing. My critique on that being while I get the 'rp' reasoning for it, I was so focused on remembering where things were, how to do things I haven't done in ages (ie: trades), among other things, that I was left flustered trying to just complete objectives from a mechanics perspective instead of any RP related one, which also lead to me not really consuming anything npc's were trying to relay to me lore/story/mission wise because I felt like I wasn't gonna complete things in time :/ (not that I didn't still appreciate the mission over all and what went into it, it was cool to have something new, and I think it's just a system that is still new and people are finding their flows and optimizations, etc for, and I'm glad any time I've been able to assist with this whether in terms of flow, or technical issues/bugs etc)

Tbh the original mission system was not great to begin with

![FA] Adrenaline | RockNRollGeek

it was like a 20 or 30 minute window to complete the whole thing. My critique on that being while I get the 'rp' reasoning for it, I was so focused on remembering where things were, how to do things I haven't done in ages (ie: trades), among other things, that I was left flustered trying to just complete objectives from a mechanics perspective instead of any RP related one, which also lead to me not really consuming anything npc's were trying to relay to me lore/story/mission wise because I felt like I wasn't gonna complete things in time :/ (not that I didn't still appreciate the mission over all and what went into it, it was cool to have something new, and I think it's just a system that is still new and people are finding their flows and optimizations, etc for, and I'm glad any time I've been able to assist with this whether in terms of flow, or technical issues/bugs etc)

Classic WoW style of play. Unless there is a voiced cutscene, I have no idea what's going on lol

![FA] Adrenaline | RockNRollGeek

it was like a 20 or 30 minute window to complete the whole thing. My critique on that being while I get the 'rp' reasoning for it, I was so focused on remembering where things were, how to do things I haven't done in ages (ie: trades), among other things, that I was left flustered trying to just complete objectives from a mechanics perspective instead of any RP related one, which also lead to me not really consuming anything npc's were trying to relay to me lore/story/mission wise because I felt like I wasn't gonna complete things in time :/ (not that I didn't still appreciate the mission over all and what went into it, it was cool to have something new, and I think it's just a system that is still new and people are finding their flows and optimizations, etc for, and I'm glad any time I've been able to assist with this whether in terms of flow, or technical issues/bugs etc)

It is a 35 minute time limit I put on a 25 minute mission to light a fire under slow players. Many players did the mission in 24 to 28 minutes (one player took about 43 minutes, but had a slow start). Also, no matter how much time is left on the clock at the end, I tell everyone they had seconds to spare. As I pointed out earlier, this particular mission has little to no RP, story, or plot; nor it is important for the advancement of this mission's progress. Other missions that I'm putting together have more RP or plot as part of the mission, but still not a main focus. I'm not trying to tell or create a story; they're just simple missions for the fun of it. Run around a little, find a contact, trade, and have a nice day. Just for fun. And, thank you very much for the input, comments, and viewpoint. I do appreciate it greatly. And you'll probably be happy to know that those time limits, or any kind of time pressure, is not a part of the other 8 missions I am working on.

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it was like a 20 or 30 minute window to complete the whole thing. My critique on that being while I get the 'rp' reasoning for it, I was so focused on remembering where things were, how to do things I haven't done in ages (ie: trades), among other things, that I was left flustered trying to just complete objectives from a mechanics perspective instead of any RP related one, which also lead to me not really consuming anything npc's were trying to relay to me lore/story/mission wise because I felt like I wasn't gonna complete things in time :/ (not that I didn't still appreciate the mission over all and what went into it, it was cool to have something new, and I think it's just a system that is still new and people are finding their flows and optimizations, etc for, and I'm glad any time I've been able to assist with this whether in terms of flow, or technical issues/bugs etc)

One more thing I forgot to mention. There are no NPCs in my missions. Every interaction, every trade, every advancement through the mission was me. I created about 45 macros to make this first mission possible. I pull all the strings and operate all the characters. I have no assistants, and none of the characters are automatic or programmed.. they are all me and my macros.

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suijin

Yo, I know I'm about a week late but personally I liked the long form structure with a cool reward at the end

I like the long form too. Thank you for your input and comments.

This is all good feedback

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One more thing I forgot to mention. There are no NPCs in my missions. Every interaction, every trade, every advancement through the mission was me. I created about 45 macros to make this first mission possible. I pull all the strings and operate all the characters. I have no assistants, and none of the characters are automatic or programmed.. they are all me and my macros.

feel like you might be taking it personally - didn't think I'd have to explain my usage of npc's there, but to be crystal clear: I'm aware you were running those, and that they weren't some AI running on magic wishes, pixie dust, and rainbow sprinkles. This is why I literally used some of my own macro's to speak back to the 'characters' a couple times, to try and make it fun in return for you, who I knew was taking time out of your day to make said mission happen. "Npc's" was used here for lack of a better term while I was trying to quickly give feedback on the characters/entities I was interacting with on the mission, which was less about / nothing to do with the characters themselves but rather the mission flow and time crunch which took me, the player, not my character, out of it stressing I was not gonna get the full intended mission/ending if I didn't zip around quick enough before time was up, and my personal time was a bit limited so I pushed some personal stuff to hop on during the available window and didn't want to come away from that feeling like my time was wasted and that I'd have to wait a few weeks for another slot to be available to run the same 'content' again. Hopefully that clears up my usage of 'npc' in my previous feedback.

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It is a 35 minute time limit I put on a 25 minute mission to light a fire under slow players. Many players did the mission in 24 to 28 minutes (one player took about 43 minutes, but had a slow start). Also, no matter how much time is left on the clock at the end, I tell everyone they had seconds to spare. As I pointed out earlier, this particular mission has little to no RP, story, or plot; nor it is important for the advancement of this mission's progress. Other missions that I'm putting together have more RP or plot as part of the mission, but still not a main focus. I'm not trying to tell or create a story; they're just simple missions for the fun of it. Run around a little, find a contact, trade, and have a nice day. Just for fun. And, thank you very much for the input, comments, and viewpoint. I do appreciate it greatly. And you'll probably be happy to know that those time limits, or any kind of time pressure, is not a part of the other 8 missions I am working on.

good to know

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feel like you might be taking it personally - didn't think I'd have to explain my usage of npc's there, but to be crystal clear: I'm aware you were running those, and that they weren't some AI running on magic wishes, pixie dust, and rainbow sprinkles. This is why I literally used some of my own macro's to speak back to the 'characters' a couple times, to try and make it fun in return for you, who I knew was taking time out of your day to make said mission happen. "Npc's" was used here for lack of a better term while I was trying to quickly give feedback on the characters/entities I was interacting with on the mission, which was less about / nothing to do with the characters themselves but rather the mission flow and time crunch which took me, the player, not my character, out of it stressing I was not gonna get the full intended mission/ending if I didn't zip around quick enough before time was up, and my personal time was a bit limited so I pushed some personal stuff to hop on during the available window and didn't want to come away from that feeling like my time was wasted and that I'd have to wait a few weeks for another slot to be available to run the same 'content' again. Hopefully that clears up my usage of 'npc' in my previous feedback.

I don't take any of this personally. I always do all of this stuff with a smile on my face. I do this for fun. Thank you for your input and comments (they are greatly appreciated).

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A new mission: Something's Wrong With Kandy will be available 4 times this weekend! This is an introductory mission to the story line involving a character named Kandy, and is designed to be short and sweet.

The schedule for this mission can be found here: https://discord.com/channels/137006126100250624/1284286397833941054/1325037306016694363

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Please note that this is not an "event", it is a short mission, that is all. It should take about 10 or 15 minutes for most people. If RABBIT is not waiting, they are on a mission.and will return shortly.

Operation: Smorgasbord will be hosted by RABBIT this upcoming weekend. You may request, and run any of the 5 missions currently available. Any mission, in any order may be requested by name, or number from RABBIT. This Operation will be offered 4 times during the course of the upcoming weekend. The schedule can be found here: https://discord.com/channels/137006126100250624/1284286397833941054/1327169190389481523 In game: If you right-click on RABBIT, and select "Details", you will see RABBIT's list of all missions numbered 1 to 7. The available missions during this Operation will be missions numbered 2 through 6, and are clearly labeled as such. A description of each mission can be found here: https://discord.com/channels/137006126100250624/1284286397833941054/1304674898182144092 Good luck, and have fun!

I thought some of you might be interested in the technical information about the construction of my first mission Save The Historian. The main idea was to create the longest mission I could possibly think of with the simplest of story lines. So, what I ended up with was a time-critical, 5-stage mission, taking the player across all 3 districts, with a sweet reward at the end. To make this mission possible:

6 characters (inc. host)
39 main mission macros
12 mission reward macros
3 simultaneous MxO clients
2 computers running Windows

Seems like a lot, but it really is quite manageable. If anyone wants a little help putting together your own macro sets so you can host missions, or if you just want to learn a little more about the magic and limits of macros, and how to make long-chained macros, I'd be happy to help out. . (edited)

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how i make missions

Rt tavares

how i make missions

Check the pinned message in this channel and the example text shortly after

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I thought some of you might be interested in the technical information about the construction of my first mission Save The Historian. The main idea was to create the longest mission I could possibly think of with the simplest of story lines. So, what I ended up with was a time-critical, 5-stage mission, taking the player across all 3 districts, with a sweet reward at the end. To make this mission possible:

6 characters (inc. host)
39 main mission macros
12 mission reward macros
3 simultaneous MxO clients
2 computers running Windows

Seems like a lot, but it really is quite manageable. If anyone wants a little help putting together your own macro sets so you can host missions, or if you just want to learn a little more about the magic and limits of macros, and how to make long-chained macros, I'd be happy to help out. . (edited)

When I ran MxO 2.0 intro mission it required 9 client windows, two monitors, and so many python codes running I had to constantly intervene haha. I wish I had a better automation system.

4:50

And when I did the escort quest for the RFZ cross over, my NPC just kept heading off on his own with no one in tow. xD

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I thought some of you might be interested in the technical information about the construction of my first mission Save The Historian. The main idea was to create the longest mission I could possibly think of with the simplest of story lines. So, what I ended up with was a time-critical, 5-stage mission, taking the player across all 3 districts, with a sweet reward at the end. To make this mission possible:

6 characters (inc. host)
39 main mission macros
12 mission reward macros
3 simultaneous MxO clients
2 computers running Windows

Seems like a lot, but it really is quite manageable. If anyone wants a little help putting together your own macro sets so you can host missions, or if you just want to learn a little more about the magic and limits of macros, and how to make long-chained macros, I'd be happy to help out. . (edited)

Damn yeah that is actually quite a bit to be doing all at once

1:58

that's really cool\

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merv

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Anyone interested in getting a CYPH/EPN RP going?

extremely cool game, sad we don't really have anything this unique today

Is anyone here truly interested in running missions when combat is not implemented yet? It is quite challenging (actually very difficult) to create and host missions without combat, since combat is a main focus of the game. When I hosted missions a few months ago, I waited for participants to show up for 12 hours, and in all that time only 2 people wanted to run missions. This tells me there is very little interest in missions without combat. I am happy to create and host missions for the community, as long as there is interest in the community to run and experience them. Otherwise, it becomes a futile effort, and huge waste of time to continue creating scenarios for missions that no one cares to run. If you would like me to host more missions, please let me know. If you would like to schedule a special session, where you, and or others can run several (or all) of my missions, please let me know. If you are one of the people who missed out on any of my missions, now is your chance to run them. We can arrange a session or time, all you have to do is let me know. I won't know unless you let me know. Please reply with any comments and/or suggestions. Thank you for your time, and interest in missions. (edited)

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I’m just interested in critical missions personally

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Is anyone here truly interested in running missions when combat is not implemented yet? It is quite challenging (actually very difficult) to create and host missions without combat, since combat is a main focus of the game. When I hosted missions a few months ago, I waited for participants to show up for 12 hours, and in all that time only 2 people wanted to run missions. This tells me there is very little interest in missions without combat. I am happy to create and host missions for the community, as long as there is interest in the community to run and experience them. Otherwise, it becomes a futile effort, and huge waste of time to continue creating scenarios for missions that no one cares to run. If you would like me to host more missions, please let me know. If you would like to schedule a special session, where you, and or others can run several (or all) of my missions, please let me know. If you are one of the people who missed out on any of my missions, now is your chance to run them. We can arrange a session or time, all you have to do is let me know. I won't know unless you let me know. Please reply with any comments and/or suggestions. Thank you for your time, and interest in missions. (edited)

Thanks for your efforts and persistence in trying to make things more interesting

14:03

The "toolset" atm is too bare bones, just minimal test commands I added, server managed/run missions are obviously required for anything further (edited)

How did Rarebit do it on his own?

14:32

Sometimes I’m amazed at how that one guy carried the game on his back for a while (edited)

Ouranos

How did Rarebit do it on his own?

Well there were actually people still very engaged in the story of the Matrix. Here we are keeping it alive for ~15-20 people, most of which are impartial of most things until the game is playable. And even if it 100% playable, the game would still be as bare as it is now, after the initial excitement died down.

16:33

The amount of work I put into running multipart mission chains for events is mind boggling. I run 8-9 NPCs on a single computer across multiple screens with macros and dialogues as well as walk paths that all need to go in order for however many mission groups exist.

16:35

Not to mention keeping track of everyone who is running it so I know where they are on the quest chain and being available to answer questions when they get lost.

That wasn’t what my question was about at all dude

16:36

It was more of a metaphorical question

I imagine enthusiasm is stronger when there is a motivated group of people to entertain.

Also money helps

16:37

We’re all reaching or past 40 around here, starting to have better things to do

No doubt. Yeah, well, we're essentially the equivalent of the dads when we were kids that were either super into a board or text-based game.

Spending days and days working on something on the emu only for 10 people (max) who actually know what the game is to show up (edited)

I would happily run events 2 times a month if I knew the turnout would be 20+. I imagine so would Plug

Older players are mostly done with the game

16:40

Maybe they’ll show up once a year

16:40

Or when the next movie comes out

Generally this is why I run events with plenty of time to promote and hype, hoping it increases turn out.

Just look at the discord server, it’s always the same ten people talking haha (edited)

Ouranos

Or when the next movie comes out

More so once a year to check if missions/combat is ready.

16:41

I imagine most of these niche communities of post game emus are like this. Such as SWG

Server based stuff is gonna be tough to get

Ouranos

Just look at the discord server, it’s always the same ten people talking haha (edited)

When you think of how that is just 10 people from the entire world.

I guess the only way I try to be useful around here is by archiving anything cool related to the franchise or try to find where the code might be

16:43

But even when I made a huge archives with so much stuff for the fans and nobody cared

Ouranos

I guess the only way I try to be useful around here is by archiving anything cool related to the franchise or try to find where the code might be

Having the two devs show up has been a huge twist. I hope Rajko is learning some pretty valuable stuff.

I’ve learned not to have too much expectation in anything Matrix related a long time ago

Ouranos

But even when I made a huge archives with so much stuff for the fans and nobody cared

Yeaaah. I understand that. Maybe when someone randomly gets nostalgia over the game, pops in and searches for a day then notta.

And it’s fine tbh

16:45

It’s a museum

16:45

It’s great that it exists

16:45

But that’s all it can be so far, a museum

Yeah. Well I do my best to keep the 10people here engaged.

16:49

The Halloween party was a reasonable success

16:51

I'm hoping writing a new story is like an expansion pack for MxO and that draws in a new group of people. Esp if server based missions were able to be added, as Rajko said.

An effort in futility? Perhaps. A huge waste of time? Never. In fact, I have re-arranged my 7 original missions into a loose "story arc" that moves the super sweet reward to the end of 7th mission. I created an in-game menu system for RABBIT, so you can right-click and view RABBIT's details, and or request a list from RABBIT, and see all available missions, in order. This is so you can choose which mission you'd like to run, or view which is the next one in the "story arc". I am also developing a "tour" of Mega City, so visitors can see all the cool places, without having to know how to read a map, or research the various locations. A new guide, named Hare, will take you on a guided "tour" of the several places, utilizing the mission system. Lastly, (for now, and just for fun) I am developing a singular version of the 7 missions (+reward). This will be a single mission, and the ultimate challenge. I estimate it will take the player (victim) on a 2 hour mission, covering all aspects of the 7 missions (with a couple of surprises, just for fun), and the super sweet reward at the end. Hosting this would be a challenge for me as well. Just for fun.

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An effort in futility? Perhaps. A huge waste of time? Never. In fact, I have re-arranged my 7 original missions into a loose "story arc" that moves the super sweet reward to the end of 7th mission. I created an in-game menu system for RABBIT, so you can right-click and view RABBIT's details, and or request a list from RABBIT, and see all available missions, in order. This is so you can choose which mission you'd like to run, or view which is the next one in the "story arc". I am also developing a "tour" of Mega City, so visitors can see all the cool places, without having to know how to read a map, or research the various locations. A new guide, named Hare, will take you on a guided "tour" of the several places, utilizing the mission system. Lastly, (for now, and just for fun) I am developing a singular version of the 7 missions (+reward). This will be a single mission, and the ultimate challenge. I estimate it will take the player (victim) on a 2 hour mission, covering all aspects of the 7 missions (with a couple of surprises, just for fun), and the super sweet reward at the end. Hosting this would be a challenge for me as well. Just for fun.

Nice! I like the tour guide idea. I have a lot of cool stuff pinned all around the city if you’re ever missing locations.

23:22

To make it even more interesting for new players, the guide could look like Morpheus (or his simulacra) or someone like that since it’s impossible to meet the characters in the emu unless you go to Club Hel

23:23

A while ago, I wanted to ask Raj if he could put movie characters in famous places (like The Oracle in Debir Court) but the emu is already packed with NPCs now

Ouranos

To make it even more interesting for new players, the guide could look like Morpheus (or his simulacra) or someone like that since it’s impossible to meet the characters in the emu unless you go to Club Hel

It is already included (Morpheus, Oracle, etc.) in the tour. You get to "Jump with Morpheus" as your 3rd mission objective. "Get a cookie from the Oracle" is somewhere around the 8th objective. I am using as many characters as I can think of, without making the tour too long. I am using &setmask to accomplish this.

23:30

That way, you can "meet" them. Some even have actual audio that can be recalled to make it even more fun.

I found my list

23:32

Oracle: Debir Court
Seraph: dojo
Architect: white room
Morpheus: Heart o the City
Agent Grey and Pace: lobby
The General and his goons: white hallways
The Merovingian, Persephone, Flood, Malphas, Ookami, Beirn, The Effectuator, The Apothecary, The Twins: Club Hel
The Trainman: metro
The Kid and Shimada: church
Cryptos and Veil: chilling under a Slumberil ad
Niobe and Ghost: fake Zion cave hideout or underground fight club?

Ouranos

Nice! I like the tour guide idea. I have a lot of cool stuff pinned all around the city if you’re ever missing locations.

I would love to see what you have pinned. Your contribution would be greatly appreciated.

I wrote that a while ago

That is freaking sweet. I'll see what I can do. Thank you.

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I would love to see what you have pinned. Your contribution would be greatly appreciated.

Sure I’ll check them out tomorrow I’ll let you know when I’m online if you wanna join me

23:34

I forgot The Assassin

23:34

In some toilets somewhere I guess

23:34

Or next to a pile of garbage

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That is freaking sweet. I'll see what I can do. Thank you.

I can also tell you which /mood they used for the characters back in the days if that can help

If combat were added this game would be back on it's feet. It's sad that we can't even pve. I think that's another reason for it being stale. (edited)

Pve is harder than pvp as it involves writing ai for the npcs

Synapze777[MERV]/Reposco[EPN]

If combat were added this game would be back on it's feet. It's sad that we can't even pve. I think that's another reason for it being stale. (edited)

The game had 500 players when it closed its doors. It had all the capabilities back then and people still rarely showed. It's just the nature of the game. Having combat or NPC planted Missions would just allow those of us who focus on user involvement to have more tools to keep the game fun. For now we just work with what we have access to. =)

rajkosto

Pve is harder than pvp as it involves writing ai for the npcs

Can't it just be a simple RNG for which abilities it uses? Lol

15:47

Did @tobester give you any insider info on how NPC combat worked?

[WEPN Radio]RedEye

Can't it just be a simple RNG for which abilities it uses? Lol

Has to be a bit better than simple RNG https://www.ign.com/articles/world-of-warcraft-is-getting-a-one-button-option-that-will-automatically-cast-the-ideal-next-spell-but-at-a-cost

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An effort in futility? Perhaps. A huge waste of time? Never. In fact, I have re-arranged my 7 original missions into a loose "story arc" that moves the super sweet reward to the end of 7th mission. I created an in-game menu system for RABBIT, so you can right-click and view RABBIT's details, and or request a list from RABBIT, and see all available missions, in order. This is so you can choose which mission you'd like to run, or view which is the next one in the "story arc". I am also developing a "tour" of Mega City, so visitors can see all the cool places, without having to know how to read a map, or research the various locations. A new guide, named Hare, will take you on a guided "tour" of the several places, utilizing the mission system. Lastly, (for now, and just for fun) I am developing a singular version of the 7 missions (+reward). This will be a single mission, and the ultimate challenge. I estimate it will take the player (victim) on a 2 hour mission, covering all aspects of the 7 missions (with a couple of surprises, just for fun), and the super sweet reward at the end. Hosting this would be a challenge for me as well. Just for fun.

I really enjoyed playing the Save the Historian mission a long while back

4:11

Haven't been super involved with following stuff lately just cuz I've been really busy the past few months but I hope you know that even for passers-by your stuff's appreciated man

Roughly about 10 players running it right now.

20:57

If you get stuck just message me for tips

suijin

Haven't been super involved with following stuff lately just cuz I've been really busy the past few months but I hope you know that even for passers-by your stuff's appreciated man

Thank you. Your appreciation is greatly appreciated, and it makes me very happy to know people enjoyed the missions. Old missions (including Save The Historian), and new ones will be offered in the next few weeks. I too, have been quite busy, but see a break coming soon. I will give as much advanced notice as possible in this channel, and that one --> https://discord.com/channels/137006126100250624/1284286397833941054

rajkosto

Has to be a bit better than simple RNG https://www.ign.com/articles/world-of-warcraft-is-getting-a-one-button-option-that-will-automatically-cast-the-ideal-next-spell-but-at-a-cost

Installing a one-button system that just auto casts it? xD

Ouranos

Older players are mostly done with the game

what did you just call me

Roukan

what did you just call me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JD--IFO2no&t=201s Excuse me, what did you call me?

I Heart Huckabees - Mark is confused

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Operation: Smorgasbord will be hosted by RABBIT this upcoming weekend. You may request, and run any of the 5 missions currently available. Any mission, in any order may be requested by name, or number from RABBIT. This Operation will be offered 4 times during the course of the upcoming weekend. The schedule can be found here: https://discord.com/channels/137006126100250624/1284286397833941054/1327169190389481523 In game: If you right-click on RABBIT, and select "Details", you will see RABBIT's list of all missions numbered 1 to 7. The available missions during this Operation will be missions numbered 2 through 6, and are clearly labeled as such. A description of each mission can be found here: https://discord.com/channels/137006126100250624/1284286397833941054/1304674898182144092 Good luck, and have fun!

Honestly, I'm a bit of a tech noob, but I find it really interesting how you're able to pull all this off. I haven’t made it to an event yet, but I hope to catch one in the future. So do you actually control each NPC by hand, or are you using scripts to make the characters move and act at certain times and then just sit back and watch it play out? Do you need server access to hardcode that kind of thing, or are you operating just through the in-game console with commands for each character? Sorry if my terminology is a little off. I just think it’s super cool. // Ive always been interested in compsci I just haven't gotten around time to learning all this is to learn because life.

Vorkuta

Honestly, I'm a bit of a tech noob, but I find it really interesting how you're able to pull all this off. I haven’t made it to an event yet, but I hope to catch one in the future. So do you actually control each NPC by hand, or are you using scripts to make the characters move and act at certain times and then just sit back and watch it play out? Do you need server access to hardcode that kind of thing, or are you operating just through the in-game console with commands for each character? Sorry if my terminology is a little off. I just think it’s super cool. // Ive always been interested in compsci I just haven't gotten around time to learning all this is to learn because life.

None of my missions are fully automated or scripted in a way that would allow me to "sit back and watch it play out". I control each character by hand and manually execute long strings of commands (macros) to the Mission Engine at set intervals that are usually dependent on player interaction and reaction, making it possible to present missions to players using the original in-game mission interface. I have not hosted missions in quite some time due to real life issues pulling me away. I hope to resume hosting missions very soon, possibly even this weekend if there is any interest at all from the community. I also hope to resume a regular schedule for hosting missions, so everyone who's interested can find a time and get a chance to run one.

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Vorkuta

Honestly, I'm a bit of a tech noob, but I find it really interesting how you're able to pull all this off. I haven’t made it to an event yet, but I hope to catch one in the future. So do you actually control each NPC by hand, or are you using scripts to make the characters move and act at certain times and then just sit back and watch it play out? Do you need server access to hardcode that kind of thing, or are you operating just through the in-game console with commands for each character? Sorry if my terminology is a little off. I just think it’s super cool. // Ive always been interested in compsci I just haven't gotten around time to learning all this is to learn because life.

I write python codes to run a Convolutional Neural Network designed to look for specific things like trade windows or specific in game chats to look for specific pixel cues to run different python scripts that perform certain actions. I typically have 6-9 clients running at the same time. It def isn't a "sit back and wait" moment. I have to overlook it bc CNN often make mistakes and don't run codes that they should. Since all my code is client side and not server side, I have a lot of pixel analysis methods, sadly. (edited)

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19:20

Sounds like hardmode, but better than running each NPC by hand.

19:20

Esp if 15+ people show up.

Oh man, Oct 31st is gonna be rough for me haha

Lol, great job as usual guys

PARTY LIKE IT'S 2004!

[Moved here from previous post in #emulation] Didn't want to kill the event vibes/energy the day of, but now that it's been a few days, had two notes on the recent event in the emulator and exercising some common courtesy and respect for community members here new and old - [1] - Don't go into/stalk community member's discord bio's/external socials/etc that you don't know and proceed to use that information and bring up their IRL jobs/hobbies/etc in game/emu/on mic in front of everyone as commentary on them during your DJ set. It's not cool and kinda cringey. [2] - There's people in this community / on the emu that have been here for years, but there are still some who have only been here months, or even just days. Talking down to them because they're new and might not understand how some things work in the emu yet, isn't cool either. (see screenshot here for reference: https://imgur.com/a/LF4g0dR ) The game shut down 16 years ago. The emu's been running quite some time now in the interim of that, and yet new people still tend to find it and hop in for both the first time, and as former players, almost daily. I love seeing it and the community around the work that Raj and others have put in grow. Would rather not see people have these fun new or nostalgic experiences only to have someone sour it all for them shortly after. Maybe that's just me, but that's my 2 cents on it. . (edited)

![FA] Adrenaline | RockNRollGeek

[Moved here from previous post in #emulation] Didn't want to kill the event vibes/energy the day of, but now that it's been a few days, had two notes on the recent event in the emulator and exercising some common courtesy and respect for community members here new and old - [1] - Don't go into/stalk community member's discord bio's/external socials/etc that you don't know and proceed to use that information and bring up their IRL jobs/hobbies/etc in game/emu/on mic in front of everyone as commentary on them during your DJ set. It's not cool and kinda cringey. [2] - There's people in this community / on the emu that have been here for years, but there are still some who have only been here months, or even just days. Talking down to them because they're new and might not understand how some things work in the emu yet, isn't cool either. (see screenshot here for reference: https://imgur.com/a/LF4g0dR ) The game shut down 16 years ago. The emu's been running quite some time now in the interim of that, and yet new people still tend to find it and hop in for both the first time, and as former players, almost daily. I love seeing it and the community around the work that Raj and others have put in grow. Would rather not see people have these fun new or nostalgic experiences only to have someone sour it all for them shortly after. Maybe that's just me, but that's my 2 cents on it. . (edited)

I see I missed a lot here while being away... If it's true about this doxxing shit, that person should be permanently banned from this community ASAP. It's not even the case of common courtesy, more like criminal offence really, considering how harmful it can be to the person IRL. And jesus, this community is pretty small (room sized really), and yet people still find it in them to treat each other with such disrespect. I don't get it. New players should be welcomed with open arms, not fucking disdain. I swear, some people should not have access to the internet. (edited)

For what its worth, that isnt doxxing. If a person puts the info out there, then theyre choosing to go against OPSEC. Doxxing would be address, real name, or yes, job but only if its not made public and that information was found out using information that wasnt public. As well as sharing personal photos that arent public tieing it to a name. Other info can be the usual date of birth ect ect but generally thats for information that isnt publicly put out there by the user. However, that is still poor form to bring up peoples stuff from their profiles and blast it out there, especially if youre a DJ and its during your set. Granted every DJ is different and while I come from a French House and UK Garage background, any time we have a toaster or I do commentary, its short, sweet, addresses the crowd as one and never single someone out all so I can let the music do its thing. But again, I come from a different sort of background. All that said while poor form, I dont think harm was the intent at the very least, which I guess is at least a silver lining. 2nd part is just straight rude lol especially given the nature of the game, its age, its systems and yeah, new folks. Maybe homie just had a bad day and it manifested bad, hopefully its not a regular sort of sentiment.

Unless person in question is a public person, then even if they shared something on discord or whatever, it still looks bad to forward this personal info further via radio station or other media. Even worse if such information was shared privately, via closed channels not available to the general public. In which case it's pretty messed up regardless of the intent if the person in question did not give permission to do so. We live in a civilized times where certain rules apply and some behaviors are just unacceptable, this being one of them. I've never heard any DJ or radio presenter pull of anything of the sort.

Bad, yes, messed up and unprofessional, absolutely. Needs to be called out? 100% I just dont like to muddy the term of what doxxing actually is personally. Pardon my tism on that one~

Fair enough. Maybe it wasn't that severe. Wasn't there to witness it so I wouldn't know.

To clarify that first item - this wasn't doxxing nor did I state that it was. It was a DJ that unprompted, who I don't know in the slighest and vice versa, decided to hop on the mic during said event and call me out specifically in front of the crowd and make commentary about 'we all can't be like RockNRoll over here who does X Y and Z professionally compared to what i'm trying to do here' The info has never been brought up here, which is how I knew it either came from what was in my discord profile at the time or external socials. (What was said was similar to what was in my discord bio at that time, but not exact, so I assume they either made a leap or went external at some point.) The point on that one being don't do it. It's gross. It's weird. It's one thing if its something that has been brought up or comes up in conversation here / within the community, especially if its someone you know and are on good terms with - to single out a complete stranger and start calling that info out of nowhere that's never been brought up before and only would have been obtained by nosing around, during a public event - yeah, not a great vibe. Considering the 2nd item regarding them being shitty to a brand new redpill just an hour prior already had me annoyed, while I can deal with someone doing that and handle it accordingly, it happening in this particular scenario and the idea of it potentially happening to anyone else, especially those who were new there, was a bit mortifying. I've given that person private feedback and QA info on these events in the past, but these 2 items were egregious enough that some transparency and accountability needed to be called in to play here for community awareness. (imo).

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@Calaeus (radiofreezion.net) that said, it was also a nice reminder we need another Calaeus party again at some point

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To clarify that first item - this wasn't doxxing nor did I state that it was. It was a DJ that unprompted, who I don't know in the slighest and vice versa, decided to hop on the mic during said event and call me out specifically in front of the crowd and make commentary about 'we all can't be like RockNRoll over here who does X Y and Z professionally compared to what i'm trying to do here' The info has never been brought up here, which is how I knew it either came from what was in my discord profile at the time or external socials. (What was said was similar to what was in my discord bio at that time, but not exact, so I assume they either made a leap or went external at some point.) The point on that one being don't do it. It's gross. It's weird. It's one thing if its something that has been brought up or comes up in conversation here / within the community, especially if its someone you know and are on good terms with - to single out a complete stranger and start calling that info out of nowhere that's never been brought up before and only would have been obtained by nosing around, during a public event - yeah, not a great vibe. Considering the 2nd item regarding them being shitty to a brand new redpill just an hour prior already had me annoyed, while I can deal with someone doing that and handle it accordingly, it happening in this particular scenario and the idea of it potentially happening to anyone else, especially those who were new there, was a bit mortifying. I've given that person private feedback and QA info on these events in the past, but these 2 items were egregious enough that some transparency and accountability needed to be called in to play here for community awareness. (imo).

So the guy actually stalked you online and decided out of the blue to talk about you on air facepalm

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I mean, what the actual hell? I can't imagine any possible scenario where such activity would pass as acceptable, regardless of what the intent was. Regarding the second thing, unfortunately even I, a while back, have witnessed veteran/s around here (I wont point fingers) looking down on newbies and somehow feeling superior to them. I guess the toxicity from 15 years ago haven't left some of those players, which results in this kind of poison spreading. We should help new players feel like it's a safe and friendly environment, not make them feel small just because they're new. If someone can't do that, the next best thing they can do is shut up and walk away. There's too few of us actually sticking around here, and this alone should make people want to avoid being dicks to each other. As I said, this is a room sized crowd.

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@Calaeus (radiofreezion.net) that said, it was also a nice reminder we need another Calaeus party again at some point

Aw hell.

I guess I could try again at some point. But would need to figure out how to make it more interesting. I stopped organizing those when people stopped showing up 2-3 times in a row.

Well, I usually don't engage with these sort of accusations as they are often times poor characterisations and categorically false and often someone just trying to cause drama. This case, however, while both of those things, is set to provide a mischaracterisation with the suggestion of severe harm. So there are a lot of things that need to be cleared up. Since this is posted in the Community Missions Chat and follows a recent event, it is clear who the "DJ" is they are pretending to not be talking about. Since I do not wish for this to distract any longer from the wonderful job everyone did getting this event running and the outstanding event as a whole, and to not distract from the joy of future events from all people who host them, I'll address this. sigh So, let's have a go: 1) First categorically false statement. No one was being stalked. https://discord.com/channels/137006126100250624/137010908307259393/1432158456097280103 In this post, RockNRollGeek showed their set up and talked about their stream deck and said that both of these were used for their work. The comment made was along the lines of "haha not everyone can be a professional streamer like you" as a light-hearted interaction with the audience as the DJ regarding RockNRollGeek's joke (or statement) regarding the ability to hear me. I thought this was a fun comment since I was definitely no professional and using some rather unprofessional software. Not details about their work, their socials, or any personal information was disclosed. Admittedly it was an assumption based on limited information in the Discord, but I thought it was in good spirit. It also takes all of two seconds to verify that what I said was in fact someone true?

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2) Second categorically false statement: No personal information was disclosed. No stalking would be required to verify if I was saying anything incorrect, simply clicking RockNRollGeek’s profile shows a Twitch icon. By saying they were a streamer, which was an assumption at the time (like light-heartedly joking someone is a professional cook because they talked about a dish they cooked) I admit, was not private information. This is information publicly disclosed on their profile is, as such, publicly available information. That said, I was going based on conversations had in the Discord. I won’t post those pieces of information but you’re welcome to click their Discord profile yourself, if you wish. I will only post them if there is disagreement on whether this was publicly available information at the time. Again, I had no idea it was at the time, but I didn’t provide any details or criticism of their work as a streamer. I genuinely didn’t know they were, only made a light-hearted assumption to interact with the crowd in attendance. Whether you think that is appropriate or not, is not really my concern as I genuinely believe no one was harmed in the process, no personal information was disclosed, and if anything it was a compliment on the skills of RockNRollGeek being much better than mine. (edited)

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3) The one that is true: After reviewing the screenshot, it does appear that someone was being rude to a new player. After the start of the missions, I allowed my IRL friend run the NPC and overlook the code while I focused on getting the music stream up. While I understand my friend’s frustration as they were under high stress due to keeping an eye on all the NPCs and the code, it doesn’t excuse their behaviour. If they are a private player, they’re welcome to act anyway they want, whether you agree with their choice to be rude or not. However, when they are overlooking a missions-based event, they should be patient and respectful. So, I agree it was uncalled for and I’ll be sure that anyone using mission NPCs understands (including myself if I’ve ever been short or cross before) the need to maintain professionalism and be well mannered during events, no matter how annoyed they are. To whoever was affected (since I can’t see) I apologise for the conduct toward you and hopefully no other people were treated poorly from the NPCs but if they did, please let me know. I have no tolerance for this sort of thing as events are designed to be fun.

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If my comment that was intended as a light-hearted interaction offended or upset RockNRollGeek, which it appears to have, then I apologise as that wasn’t my intention. But the characterisation as it has been is incorrect and going further if you heard something that bothers you during events please bring them to my attention. My DMs are open. That is all I will say on the matter and I have no desire to be dragged into a large debate on conduct. I won't comment any further. I simply wanted to make a public statement since a conversation like this could have been brought up in DMs but as it was public and had extreme mischaracterisations of the situation and led a narrative of severe malus and neglect that are extraordinarily false, they needed to be addressed publicly, sadly. Let us now move on from this situation and continue to grow as a community and enjoy many more fun events in the future! =) (edited)

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People having twitch accounts linked to their discord has nothing to do with streaming or mean someone is a streamer, 99% of discord accounts linked to twitch are for twitch viewers to get special discord roles/privs assigned to them on streamer discords or redeeming bonuses. That said, you provided an excellent example of why assumptions and jumping to conclusions based on info around people you don't know and have no connection to can be a problem. As was previously mentioned, the problem isn't that you potentially browsed someone's bio or invented false information based on a previous picture / discord conversation, it was the way you felt the need to use it. (this also took place toward the end of the event, not the beginning where the mention of not hearing you took place, and I was the only person you made this kind of comment to, also to that person being someone you don't know and have had started previous arguments / issues with on this server, which obviously makes it more weird.) That said, while I still don't think you understood the scope of the issue based on the stance you took above, I do believe you'll be more mindful in the future on interactions and having more accountability with how those events and missions are ran and anyone else you bring in to assist you with them (if that was actually the case), as their actions are obviously a direct reflection on you, the only person that anyone was aware was handling this/doing this event, and to that end people are now aware and there is an expectation and accountability that can be held to in the future, rather than things being swept under the rug/dm's. So things are resolved as far as I'm concerned. Outside of these issues it was otherwise a fun event and as far as I could tell after the fact the team that was slighted by that interaction also ended up having fun the rest of the night despite the rocky start. Let's all rejoice in the fact the emu is no longer pitch dark everywhere and look forward to upcoming snowy fun of the next season.

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