matrix view code sequence

Hitler Finds Out The Matrix Online Is Shutting Down

I'm sad there's no all option

but you cant be a sixtuple agent

Gotta pick a side

6:38

How does the story end?

6:38

YOU

6:39

TELL

6:39

US

hello peeps

Howdy Static

i find discord is a better way than irc

17:15

glad this place exists

Welcome to the server

17:16

thanks, what's shaking?

Nuttin much

what is the #deleted-channel channel for?

For those of us who used to play The Secret World, another MMO

i played that too

17:22

it is like using a less potent drug after MXO

I left once they rolled out Secret World Legends

Have you tried the new one?

It's basically a single player cash shop

17:25

No thank you

lol

17:26

the devs said they wanted to make the game "the way it meant to be played"

17:27

i guess the truth comes out

17:27

sad, I did enjoy the theme and the skill builds

Yea, so did I

17:27

Ah well

17:27

Now we just wait for another MMO

Im enjoying SWL, much more than TSW to be honest

I just don't like the invasiness of the cash shop

While I dont like the caches popping up everywhere

17:40

I just sell them for shards

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hello.

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i am new here

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so

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I would like to ask something

14:55

Can you fight actually agaisnt someone?

14:56

Or u can just walk nothing more?

No fite yet but u can equip gun and manually play schut animation if u want

what about chute animation?

You can poop out shotgun shells

17:11

Which I've been having fun with

oh thx guys

Mainly because I am a 13 year old boy in a 33 year old man's body

Sadly u cant be an agent (((

you can put a mask on if you want

Also what does the roles do in discord

nothing other than colors

lol

17:14

I also saw that u can be h

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the ghost twin

only half

Gotta have a buddy for the other half

i cant invite people (((

I didn't realize that was supposed to be a function of the game.

I mean discord

Also how do i get the roles

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Added an .invite command for lazy people

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you can play with people in mxoemu right?

18:30

or only yourself?

18:32

@here

You can play with other people in the emu, yes

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It's weird that people only ever use the bot commands in here.

I know, right?

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Well, not much going on in this channel beside the bot commands. lol

got a crash lol

If any of us were programmers, we'd be able to talk about the EMU more.

That's because we aren't as cool as @rajkosto

This is true

19:03

Rajko gets fucking VICE articles written about him and we're all "How I hack the ground smash move"

I don't know how to hack the ground smash either

19:09

We are all equal in the eyes of moshimo

I just want to go to Moshimo's Hideout man

19:10

Ever since seeing it on CheatCodeCentral

19:10

it's on the internet it has to be real

What we could use is an animator

got more animations than you can shake a stick at

If you ever make that crowdsource tool to figure out what effects go where, I'm still down to help with that

19:49

I have plenty of time waiting for dungeon queues

Ahh the UE4 project?

19:49

Ahh but @rajkosto , can I sword my katana at great attack?

unfortunatel no

That's why we need an animator, so I can!

19:52

Also, I have forgotten how big the ability tree is.

19:52

Jesus Christ there's a lot of abilities

and there's a lot of animations per IL pair

Nice

19:53

I'm kind of sad that the game never had a wall-run combat ability thing

how even do this

It could be an evade ability.

they were distributed as pills

19:54

the wall kicks

Yea, which sucks

needs ue4 for any new movement

hmmm

19:55

Well I'm still working on the spreadsheet. I've made some progress

19:56

But yea, when (if) you ever make the crowdsource tool, I'd be down to helping with that as well.

you were supposed to already have it, some guy was supposed to make it

19:56

but guess what happened

19:57

same thing that always does luigi

poof?

after a couple of days of tutorin

19:57

gone with the wind

gone in a flash of smoke?

so rip those few days

Well that doesn't mean you give up on it. You just gotta rebuild

In terms of the wallkicks, they used to be a normal combat animation pre-CR2.0

19:59

and then everything changed when the Smedley Nation attacked

Yea

19:59

I wasn't around too much for pre-CR2.0

meems

All I really know is CR2.0

20:00

Which is what we have in the game right now in terms of abilities and clothes and the coersponding stats

cr2.0 is better

20:00

its not a clusterfuck

Although I do like how Pre-CR2.0 is more akin to DnD to who wins each round in the Turn base combat system

What, you didnt like 100man interlock?

20:01

aka lets all stand in Mara C and lag the fuck out

You add up the positive stats, subtracts negative, take in character state (dazed, off-balanced, etc) and whoever has the higher point won.

20:03

BTW, while we're talking about combat. Does anyone remember how attributes points were distributed per level?

you get one per level

20:04

for what they affected, you can go into the upgrade screen right now and see

Okay, I thought so as well. But under the current combat system. You have a total of 67 points to spend at lvl 50

20:05

You have your base attributes that you start with, and then you get one per level which gives you 50. However, on this screen. It says I have 67 points to spend.

20:05

20:06

So I dunno if it's wrong or what

its cuz u have more than lvl50 xp

Ahhh

20:07

Okay so one per level

its also one per level after level 2

20:07

so you get 1 at level 2

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0 at level 1

Okay I gotcha

20:08

So really we get 49 points

20:09

Hmmm

20:10

I had a thought today about letting everyone start at 0 all across all 5 attributes and let them build their character completely from scratch without the presets.

have to have the presets if you use orig client

20:10

Bluepills gotta start with some intelligence, come on

Well let's be honest, newly awaken redpills are just blobs of jelly until they're rebuilt on the hovercrafts.

you dont care about that

20:11

their RSI is still the same

True

20:11

So, when an operative jacks into The Matrix, do they go to sleep? Like, are they dreaming?

You've watched the movies, right?

Yes

20:17

I watched the movies, the animatrix and read the comics.

Man, you know what I miss more than anything?

22:01

Arguing with @zerø × sum and his crew at Camon C and everyone flagging up into a fucking brawl

Hahahaha

22:01

I miss hanging out with my friends and factionmates and having duels in the dojos.

22:01

I was a menance with a shotgun.

For the longest time, I was my faction's Level 36 shield breaker

22:02

EVENTUALLY I got to 50

22:02

and I became an MKT menace

I NEVER PVPd

22:03

am scrub

One thing I'd love to try is see if I could be a tank with a shotgun or am I restricted to MA for tanking

lol tanking

22:04

Bruh we just dive in and dps

But I love tanking in other MMOs

22:05

I'm good at holding aggro

I dont recall there even being a threat table outside of "who is hurting me more"

22:06

Like, there's no "raid" bosses or anything, just bullet sponges who sometimes cast swirling ki or lightning

Ahhh

22:07

Maybe that why the dungeon system sucked in the game

"dungeon"

22:07

bruh, you mean raiding the local opium den

Exile hideouts, whatevver

Lets go down an elevator and beat up some drug addicts

what a thrill...

oh look this one dropped belle bottoms

22:08

got my shitty red belle bottom kung fu pants

the "dungeons" were only hard if you tried to run through them

lol

otherwise just pick one guy off, kill, repeat

and my green t-shirt

Rajkosto is correct

22:08

They hardly required a team effort

YOU THINK IM KIDDING, Im describing the main PvP set

Now the Panndora boxes, those required a team.

Black half-trench, green tshirt, red belle bottoms, tan fedora, sakura bandana, a pair of beat up nikes and some fingerless gloves

i soloed the first one

22:09

at not lvl 50

When you went full PvP set, you went full on murder hobo

Wasn't there one exploit where you could run a box and pull like Agents to Mara C and they'd kill everyone?

No, that was the flame virus

Ahhh

Flame virus toggled on FFA PvP and it caused enough server distress that agents would start spawning to cull the herd

22:11

I remember because Im the asshole who ran it to Mara C during the Enmascarado event

22:12

on Method

22:13

Me and Dr No if I recall correctly, with a little help from our faction

22:13

might have been Tribex

Hahaha

22:51

That's awesome

22:53

Hey, what do I need to edit so that when I jack into MxO, that I go to the loading area first?

I think its a checkbox on the mxoemu site

Yep, it is

22:58

Thanks

if you dont want it happening every time, you can go to a hardline and go to loading area

Well I do want it to happen all the time.

@RogueA you were method too

Yep!

Nice

back in the days when it was TC/FH/Sirens as the three sister factions who claimed rule over the server

I've always been on Recursion

back when Gothique made the completely original <Machines> and got ridiculed, then turned in into <MegaCityPoliceDept> and got ridiculed before watching Underworld and deciding that vampires were cool

23:27

swapping to Merv and renaming her faction <Ookami Batsu>

Lesbian vampires!!

23:30

MxO had cybering

23:30

I remember one time two people were cybering in Area Chat in Mara

23:30

Fun times

The kids call it ERP these days

I think nowadays that involves fursuits and yiffing

@Metalogic there was also an "exploit" (sorta, barely) that allowed you to bring agents around the map. if you stood in a mission area too long after the mission was abandoned or past the 30 min mark, an agent would spawn and chase you.

23:34

it would be focused on you, but some people would train them around and the only way to kill them (after hacking got nerfed) was to swirling ki summon them for hours

23:34

then they'd turn into 2 :^)

That is really awesome lol

Hahahahahahaha well that quickly turned odd

23:48

Ok who remembers the nerve cake before it got sound sensored?

mhm

Yea, I remember the Merv cake

People who didn't get to hear it before they removed the sound just don't belive lol (edited)

it locked you into orgasm animation until the end tho

Yea I was just referring to the sound

Yea, I remember the sound

heh I've never seen the anim or heard the sound

merv cake!

17:09

i remember that. So is there a plan for this game? Any way to contribute? I'm trying to figure out what's going on

I've got an old fraps video somewhere /cake

I want someone to de/lock all the sound bits and files so I can listen to the in-game bits

22:18

I've been too lazy to do it

I have them somewhere

22:20

Each and every sound effect. I can zip them up.

22:21

I'll look for them tonigt

Well I was wearing the dialogue stuff mostly . Haha

6:43

For the missions and all that

Been wanting to design a game forever now. Think I'm gonna learn Unity.

oh no, straight to the trash pile

y tho

(unreal is better and actually used outside of indie dev)

(I was gonna learn me some coding before committing)

Unreal it is!!!

Plenty of good unity games tho

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xD

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In case you haven't seen it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ABu8GHmx5Q

Hitler Finds Out The Matrix Online Is Shutting Down

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If I learn me some UE4, want some help? Cause I'm serious about getting me some coding knowledge.

Oh snap it's Synapze!

i know some ue4. i'm deving an mmo myself, but it's a bit hard since i don't know much graphics art work

0:00

i've been buying art assets from the ue star

0:00

er, store

Spoiler alert Synapze was a zion lesig. I learned in a funny way. Kept that secret for a year.

My favorite LESIG was Viracondra

Fitting

0:59

Mine was phrack

Vira was fun

Phrack was my favorite too.

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Roukan, you find a hack for photobucket yet?

Mine was Taecross

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but thats becasue he was actually in my faction

1

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It was Hymir lol

No, been lazy/

sup?

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19:44

Is what I came up with for a workable combat formula.

19:46

It applies to attacks vs defenses, and combat evades vs force combat attempts

Tactics roll is a 1-100 roll, using Combat Tactics, Melee Defense Tactics or Ranged Defense Tactics, where appropriate. (edited)

make it into excel

20:29

put in some values, test it out

will do

Awesome

@Parapsycho Is the roll an integer or a float?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13LDil8P1ys8nxfqRByBzi3r3ByBJz4cBcMBZKgssFrI/edit?usp=sharing

MXO Combat Sim

Main Player, Action, Roll Here///, Stat Roll, Result Player 1, Thrown Attack, 17, 58. 2 Player 2 Wins Player 2, Thrown Defense, 72, 92 Player1 Attributes, Stat Bonus% Belief, 15, 20 Perception, 25, 40 Reason, 25, 40 Focus, 15, 20 Vitality, 10, 10 % Bonus 1, 0 % Bonus 2, 0 % Bonus...

1:57

I dont have Evade and Force combat working yet, but I have the 4 major attack and defense types

1:58

For the two highlighted spots under "Roll Here", I use the 'Random Generator' add-on. (edited)

1:59

The Player 1 and Player 2 sheets at the bottom let you modify the character's attributes and put in any bonuses/downgrades from combat stances, abilities. and equipment. (edited)

2:00

https://www.thematrix.rumbaar.net/index.php?action=MxO_Abilities and http://mxoemu.info/forum/showthread.php?tid=2115 are useful for finding those

2:01

Abilities will usually list their bonuses as either % or points. just plug those into the right spots.

2:02

for the sheets as I posted them, PLayer 1 is a Spy type player, and Player 2 is a Melee fighter

2:03

Vitality doesnt directly affect any of the to-hit fomulas, so It's kind of useless for the sheets

2:03

just there to soak up attribute points

This is a very good post @Parapsycho http://mxoemu.info/forum/showthread.php?tid=2115&pid=18403#pid18403

Thanks

1:57

I'll update it with a link to the spreadsheet.

1:57

I need to work on that some more

Yes, yes you do.

lol

Get back to work, we're not paying you to stare at the Lady in Red.

2:03

I mean, we're not paying you at all, but that still doesn't invalidate my first point

The attirbute bonus for Evade combat isnt listed in the client, but the CR2 pdf lists it as Perception

I guess it's perception then

I suck at spreadsheets.

So you don't excel at spreadsheets?

I see what you did there.

I do love my puns

Holy crap. High Focus + Grab Style + Compel Close Combat gives you massive Force Combat rolls.

2:45

With max focus, you're looking at a 170% increase to Force Combat just on those

2:47

Which gives you pretty much a 100% chance to pull someone into interlock unless they have their Evasion shield up.

2:48

and even then , they'd probably get 1 evasion out of it

Wow

2:52

That seems a bit OP

That was the point though

2:54

The shield only took one or two hits

2:54

and then you'd get pulled into interlock

Didn't CR2.0 have some balancing issues as well?

and if the shield isnt up, you always pull someone into interlock

2:55

thats by design

I think Knife Thrower was OP?

MKT was cray

2:55

I ❤ MKT

This would be a great time to nerf MKT

Master Knife Thrower?

Yes

I se a 5% accuracy bonus in the client. is that 5% per level?

I'm not sure

If it is....then yeah, that's insane

I should do some research so I can build another shotgun build.

3:05

Fucking love the shotgun

@RogueA thats good to hear regarding the evade shield

3:06

makes me more confident that I'm on the right track if the numbers align with what you remember ftom the gameply

Oh, I 100% remember that, because I was our level 36 shield breaker

3:06

So I would bounce off 3-4 times at 36, but once I hit 50, it was once or twice

cool

You know, I could probably model some new shotguns

3:12

Always wanted to carry around a sawed-off shotgun

1

that'd be sweet (edited)

I wonder what the ratio is in game

3:14

Like if I model a shotgun with 1:1 ratio, would it be the correct size in game?

@rajkosto Do you know what the ratio is in MxO?

1unit is 1cm

Okay, what is a unit?

so if you set your modeling package for units to be cm

15:20

its all good

units are just how your modeling software sets its grid size, so just make it match MxO's by setting 1unit to equal 1cm and you wont make some hideously over/underscaled item

Okay cool

16:52

I got some really niffy ideas beside weapons

16:53

I also want to see if throwables are possible.

Like grenades and molotovs?

Yea, I was thinking three different throwables that'll have a chance to trigger either off-balance, staggered and I forgot what the third one was.

20:19

Dazed

20:19

The third one was dazed

Stun grenades ftw!

lol yes

20:29

But I dunno if that's possible in the original game or if we'd have to wait for UE4

...Throwable code bombs, you say? evil smirk

1

Hahaha

22:09

Yes, I could probably model some throwable code bombs

Yaaaassss

But I'd like to start out updating the current weapons

22:20

That's probably the easiest point to start at

Definitely.

Then we'll see if the current engine can accept brand new weapons or if we'd have to focus on UE4 for new weapons

Might be worth knowing the polycount to aim for with the vintage engine

That's kind of the annoying thins about this engine. The Matrix Online is litterally the only game that has this engine.

22:56

So it's not like there's a wealth of information

So tonight I'll begin researching on shotguns. I want to model at least five distinct verisons. From the Wal-Mart shotgun being 1-10 level and the military shotgun being 40-50

That's awesome. Can you share your work so maybe I can try making up some stuff?

23:46

I would like to see the real world lazer gun. Can use the 01 rifle fx for it.

Sure

23:47

TEAMWORK!

23:47

TEAMWORK, MAKES THE DREAM WORK!

23:49

I wonder if you can maker the lazer gun more....cyber-punky

23:49

Make it look a bit more cobbled together

So I'm working on my weapon model and I just had a thought

1:42

Can the legacy engine handle cylinders?

1:42

If you jack into MxOE and go to stuff like railing, the swingset, or even pipes, they'

1:42

they're all diamond shaped

1:43

Even some of the gun barrels are diamond shape

do you know the first thing about 3d modelling ?

5:45

a cylinder is just a diamond with more subdivisions on the top plane

5:46

and obviously it can, since there are barrels

Like I said earlier Meta, it's probably something to do with polycount

6:00

so you need to find out what polycount you're aiming for

Any servers to join?

@rajkosto Do you know what is the maximum polycount is for the LithTech Discovery engine? (edited)

2.

HA, that honestly would not surprise me @zerø × sum

65535

That's an oddly specific number

Ive actually seen that number before

17:47

I think its the normal vertices limit for meshes in most engines?

Hopefully it'll work

Well, if you have a model at 65535 its going to be crazy

Hahaha

17:48

I will never reach anywhere near that number with the models

why do you think that it would be good to reach that number

19:31

or even necessary

ULTRA-HD-4K-MEGA-VR-DETAIL! I WILL MODEL EACH INDIVIUAL ATOMS!!!!!

will they be real rocks

19:32

or virtual rocks

19:32

or scanned rocks

THEY WILL BE ROCKS, AND THEY WILL BRING EVEN THE MIGHTEST COMPUTER TO IT'S KNEES

19:33

BECAUSE FUCK YOU, THAT'S WHY!!

19:34

1 FRAME PER MINUTE

The Rocks are Tastee Wheat

According to Mouse, everything is Tastee Wheat

Exactly

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There, all is right with the world, for now.

Nice

I'd say. Some familiar faces here

Just FYI #mara-central is for general converstation.

2:02

#emulation Is usually for talking about the emulator itself

Gotcha, thanks!

No problem

Hello, I've installed the MxO client and followed all requirement on www.mxoemu.info, but when I launch the game it does crash when generating the world map at launch, anybody could help me to figure out what is going on?

What's your OS?

14:10

I know for me, I have to run MxOE as an administrator

I'm on Win10, the launcher (and matrix.exe) is running as administrator ofc

I run it as both admin and in compat mode for winxp

its on comat mode for win7 actualy

14:53

compat*

14:54

ok i'll try win xp now

14:57

nope it's still crashing after I login, when generating the world map

14:59

I run it on a I7, 16Go ram, and optimus Intel/nvidia, I've set the default graphic card on Nvidia (880M)

14:59

My drivers are up to date as well

you dont need either of those things btw

17:23

admin or compat mode

17:24

admin's only if you want to patch stuff and its installd in program files

yes indeed, It's installed on another partition, fully patched actually.

18:41

The launcher says: launcher version v7.6003 and client version v7.6002

18:43

Evrything is fine until I load the world map then the client crash

It may be a firewall issue

I've set a rule for the client, same result, it crash when generating the world map

Have you tried resetting your location on the emulator page?

3:06

It was crashing for me and that fixed it

3:14

Click the drop down and pick international or downtown, then 'save new position'

3:15

then try launching the game

Thank you for your answer, I did this (even if I've never logged into the game world yet) but still same result, I get a client crash when it initialize the game world

I've finally managed to get in

installed vs2013 runtimes ?

It was EMET's fault, I had DEP activated for the launcher (which somehow returned an access violation when generating the wolrd map

ohh

9:40

you sure about that ?

yes, picky stuff

DEP should never be on for 32bit applications

I didn't know that yet

(and even for x64 most configs have it only for system services)

9:41

what is DEP ?

9:41

something in EMET ?

Data Execution Prevention

9:41

yes

yeah that should never be on for 32bit apps

9:41

why would EMET do anything about it

I use it for my daily work

9:42

But I didn't know that the launcher was flagged with an access violation, until I check it

32bit apps need to have a specific manifest that tells windows to turn on DEP

9:42

mixo does not

I didn't know that, still usefull to have this solved, I learned about it now

plays music

https://youtu.be/3lsS9u7ieaY

Tommy Toe Hold

PSA: DANIEL CORMIER!!!

lol, so true

I'm so used to handle picky stuff, malwares wise at work, that I felt like a noob when I checked why this game client was crashing on my node, so I dumped the client crash to discover that it was trying to access a protected memory location on system

19:26

I dunno why this is happening on a win 10 OS, maybe their sandbox was conflicting with the EMET layer, still good to know that

19:30

btw, I logged on, and man ... I love these old stuff, mxo (I'd never played it at this time, I was on SWG/City of Villain) makes me remeber of city of heros/villain, it really does look like the same engine hahaha

19:32

Amazing job you guys have done to RE this game's server, /tipmyhat, respectfully

19:36

Did you sniff enough to gather npc's server info? There is vendor npc I could intercat with, but no quest so far, do you have a team I could join to help during my off work hours?

19:38

I know a little C/Python, rest, java and ofc LAMP and ELK, if it could help, I'd be happy to give a hand

there is an old reality server code still kicking around somewhere

21:04

you could play around with it

21:04

although it is outdated as shit

21:04

but it is a start

21:05

it is like hello world of matrix emu

Just popping in from some lurking I was doing to say if you guys put in Vive support I'll bugtest it until I have six legs

https://www.facebook.com/hardlinedreams/posts/10159235682620063

Hardline Dreams - The MxO Scatman Project

Some small Updates. I am currently fixing the Character Creation Process. After that there is not many left before the gates can be opened:) Here is the tasks that needs to be done before (just by...

15:23

Looks like Rajko's competition is claiming to have made some progress

the more the merrier

inb4 it's all jerry rigged together

character creation worked in mine since february

Im wondering what he's going to claim to have done and how well it'll actually work

Rajkosto so far, has the only proper working EMU

20:15

Everything else been jerry-rigged together to make it seem like it's working.

I mean, if a hack works, it works

20:17

it might not be clean, it might have giant comment tags around it saying

I DONT KNOW WHY THIS WORKS BUT IT DOES
DO NOT TOUCH IT WITHOUT CONSULTING DAVE

and Dave left the company a decade ago

20:17

but if it still works, its functionally the same to the end user

on the arcady server it obviously was not functionally ok to the end user

i liked Arcady's stuff

22:18

that is what inspired me to build mine own

22:19

considering how much shit he was able to get away with by using hacks

22:19

i mean the guy had "npcs"

22:19

mind you they didn't work, but still

you can have "npcs"

22:33

just copy paste some packets

do you have npcs?

Do you want NPCs that have a purpose, or do you want NPCs for the sake of having NPCs?

i want all NPCs to be Toad

As long as they have hypnotic powers.

23:06

Having NPCs that don't have a purpose also serves a purpose.

23:06

same way trash cans and cars in mxe are just there but don't do anything

23:06

*mxo

The cars are run via the local client, they dont need server code

23:07

trashcans are also just world objects

23:07

again, no server code

but what purpose do they serve?

actually the traffic was supposed to be synced

NPCs, however, have to be programmed

traffic lights should be server side

Really? I know it never actually was

they sync to simtime, do they not?

23:08

so kind of server controlled?

no, the red/yellow/green is supposed to be server synced

23:08

which would mean all the clients would have relatively same traffic flow

Good evening, its a meee - hardline dreams

Just as i read the discussion^^ Yes we or more "i" will put on the Experimental HDS Server this year ( i think in some weeks). It is called Experimental (as it is experimental and far away from a stable or feature release). We have some NPCs moving on it (but they still doesnt move really well - but you can one hit them lol). Yes it is in some cases hacky - if you care just dont play it

This is really okay . And i dont have a problem with it if you prefer rajkos server (which have really stable feature - so respect). Why i put it online ? Short answer : why not ? It will be (mostly) the same base code as on github. That is the reason why HDS exists - we put the source online. To the NPC Topic: NPCs moving algo is tricky. You can say "ok npc - start moving in this direction" and server needs to know WHEN it could arrive a position. This is a part which works just partically in hds (as some calculations are wrong). (edited)

21:01

And then you need the navmesh to know IF the Mob can walk there or not

Oh, the way that MxO handled NPCs seemed to be entirely asinine

How does it handle NPCs?

see above - server sends "start walking" and npcs walk in the direction. And then you send something like "stop walking and position is now x,y,z" . So it adjust the position. In the real server it was very small instances of walking (so npc walk a really small amount, turn around walk again turn around walk again, stop for example). I did some analytics about it some years ago (with packet testing and videos on YT lol to see how does it look&feel. So you need to calculate on the server inces you plan to walk, time you plan to consume for it and how fast the npc walks to get the correct destination about it. Its a big topic (with some other subtopics like AI with Navmesh or A* Algorythm :)).

2

22:45

Thank God for you smart people.

I do remember seeing how the gangs would move. To me, they had a personality. They would stick together, walk around and be ready for someone to walk into their turf. Always ready for trouble, always looking behind them.

the description makes sense to me

lol yeah and if they where red they had something like "uuh look mate there is a low-level player..lets kill him"

I wonder if you could do what Bethesda does with their NPCs, build lives for the NPCs. Have them go to work, go to their home, etc.

I imagine for Rajko's UE4 version, it would instead make sense to create a volume that dictates a specific NPC's zone and then give them a leash of X distance, cull the volume at the buildings

I imagine now how a mob walks from mara central apartment up to downtown with the subway to his job....in park east to stand around and wait for some red pills

he must live in mara as the apartments in downtown are too expensive^^

so the AI cant walk through walls

if you just ignore the Navmesh (like me currently as i didnt had some parse liked rajko) then the NPCs can walk throw walls or in air

Hey, it'd add an interesting aspect to the game

i just "hacked" that by set a small radius (so the gang cant move far away)

So, she is T H I C C?

22:55

I'm leaving it

22:55

Not very often I get to use T H I C C

Is the ue4 version still a thing?

16:28

It's very difficult to find information on this project

maybe

yeah NPCs would be awesome if they had a bit of a mentality, lives etc, kind of like cyberpunk sims

Too bad MegaCity doesn't have a mall

16:55

It'd be cool to have a fight in the food court

16:55

FOOD FIGHT!

16:55

We're hyper dodging the hamburgers and bending backwards to avoid the hotdogs

1

they do have tons of residences and business though

16:55

and clubs

16:56

one thing I wanted to do is have them hang out in clubs during the night

16:56

and some of the missions would only be available at that time

Fighting to grunge and alternative rock

lol

Not dubstep because fuck dubstep

have a slav techno rave by the dumpsters under some bridge

16:57

very underground

inb4 we start beating up homeless NPCs under the bridges

i thought we already did

16:58

hey this guy has a key fragment

16:58

lets kill him

16:58

thank you for the key fragments, here are your glasses

16:59

how do you feel about beating people for other parts to get a cool new hat?

lol

17:00

Good point

>maybe Thx dev

19:09

You seem kinda notoriously quiet lol

19:10

I like your Twitter

I meaaaaan, he does it in his free time and there's some major hurdles

19:21

Do you have the FX Table on hand?

19:21

It would move development along quite a bit

the fx list should be on mxoemu site

19:31

search the forums

19:31

rajko also has a wiki

19:32

at least I hope he does

19:32

if someone want to take over that shit, it might help all people who try and develop

There's a difference between having a list with the numbers and having the table that assigned it to all the correct places

19:39

there are a LOT more FX than that little list

fxlistreal.txt

19:39

is the real list

19:39

of all of them

19:39

and they are grouped

Yea, that's the hold up with the UE4 project

19:41

Doesn't exactly help that MxO is the only game that has this engine, so it's not like we can go look at the inner workings of another MMO to figure it out.

So getting the engine fx into ue4 isn't going so great?

20:07

I heard about this from attempting to research

20:08

Jeez it's been almost a year though I thought it would have gotten some progress sucks that you're on your own for this

Well, there was supposed to be a crowd source project for the UE4 FX problem, but the guy who was supposed to code the program bailed.

I was about to ask about that

20:09

That really sucks

20:10

Is the fx being deconstructed for accuracy or by necessity?

20:10

Because if you're going from scratch you could always use ue4 fx even for now

20:11

My gut says necessity but I feel the need to ask anyway lol

ok and when game object references FX id 0042bf03 which ue4 fx do i use ? (edited)

all of them

20:28

duh

Oh you don't even know what they mean, that's all you had to say lol

Thats basically what the table would be for, otherwise he has to run each individual fx, remember what it attached to, then assign it over

22:00

and thats a bigger pain in the ass than actually coding shit LOL

I was under the impression he was just importing assets not code as well

fx are "assets" and are referenced as such

are you actually able to reproduce the animations in UE or do they have to be re-made from scratch?

see: jump gif

22:16

or do you mean fx animations

animations

22:21

like level up

22:21

healing etc

fx animations ?

22:21

or bone animations

22:22

fx data is a bunch of curves for variables of different effect tracks

22:22

and i have no names for any of the variables, only the types

fx animations

22:27

like various glitches and sprites rotating, scaling etc

those are just curves inside variables of transform effect tracks

so easily reproduced in UE?

i have the curve points

So the FX is on a track? I dont know a thing about FX in games

Hey all

0:58

i joined just today. Never played the game before. If you need a hand on DB side DM me. (Currently working on a dead MMO project) (edited)

1:00

Unfortunatelly afai can tell game needs coders ;p a lot of them

And free time. Most of the abilities don't work. Missions don't work either, i've been told by another guy who helped me that weapons/items are not in a good state yet. I noticed some animations don't play. Like sitting on a bench.

So, Rajko is working on two versions of this at once

1:06

The Legacy server, which you can access now

1:06

and a recreation of the whole game in UE4

1:07

Only Rajko has access to the UE4 version as far as I can tell, but legacy is a bitch because no other game has ever used this engine

1:07

and we (as a community) didn't really get a whole lot of packets to work from, if I recall correctly

Yea, Rajiko pretty much had to write his own source engine and his own codes to get the Legacy Server working to where it is now.

Dude had a vice article written about him

1:15

https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/53g5dk/the-death-and-rebirth-of-the-matrix-online

The Death and Rebirth of 'The Matrix Online'

When 'The Matrix Online' announced it was shutting down in 2009, a modder named Rajko decided to save it. Seven years later, he's still working on it.

That's actually how I found out about this

1:54

It's overdramatic as fuck but not a terrible article

1:54

Recreating this game 1:1 must be a bitch I would have started taking creative liberties at this point

1:55

Tbh I would either way from what I understand MxO had literally no endgame and an awful skeleton of a game without all the social shit

1:55

If it ever gets to a good state I would improve on it it's a great concept

The RP and PvP was literally the endgame

Yep yep

3:14

Spent a lot of my time in Datamine

Yeah, exploiting in datamine

How do you exploit in Datamine?

what was there to do in datamine?

6:27

i teleported to one and had to walk around for hours and didn't find anything

6:27

just some OP guards

6:27

and that was it

it was for, well, datamining

and SSR gum

FFAPVP

8:16

Also, I heard the exploits were actually cloning override (items) and firing them in data mine at the helipad, killing all npcs in the building. Apparently, newbies were leveled to 50 in one session. Also, if memory is correct, it was vector players.

Yea, Datamine was a great place to mine for $nfo and there was one luggable that you can fight over that sped up the mining process. It was a FFAPVP which was a lot of fun.

Do you guys ever pray someone from monolith "accidentally" uploads mxo

21:25

Or is the chance of that happening ridiculously slim

21:26

I mean it is ridiculously slim better question is there even a chance at all

its lost on some backup tape drive locked in a safe

Is monolith even around these days? Soe is defunct

monolith just released shadow of war

^

2:31

They just moved on

was there any code reuse from the no one lives forever and mxo?

6:15

pretty sure the udp code looked a little simialr

superficial

10:30

animation and mesh from nolf2 (different packing, same innards)

what is the progress on mxoemu? Like any etas?

MxOEMU is live, I mean you can go play it right now

ya i was playing. most of the vendors and the contacts had no content. allong with no enimies that i found

It's a WIP

0:55

It'll always be a WIP

meaning progress is slow or constant improvements?

Both

0:57

You have to understand, the EMU is being worked on by one person, in his spare time

ah. wasnt sure if he was getting help from other people

0:58

what is there so far is very impressive

They come and go, none really stick around.

ah. The mechanics is very promising so far.

Yes it is

side jumping, emersion, little additions that make you feel like you are in the matrix, attacks/moves ability setup, ect

i could give a hand on DB

1:16

side things...but got no response or any help

1:17

http://mxoemu.info/forum/showthread.php?tid=2302

@Stefanos https://github.com/rajkosto/mxoemu/wiki/Environment-Setup not sure if this was the envoirment setup you wanted

rajkosto/mxoemu

mxoemu - The Matrix Online Server Emulator

yes i tried that but stuck on the scheme

1:23

step 3.

You will have to import the sample schema that comes with Reality into this DB. Select the DB you just created. Go to Restore. Click Open Backup file. Browse to the the Reality/SQL folder within your workspace. Open up “reality.sql”. Choose “another schema” then select “reality”. Enable “Create Databases if they do not exist.” Then press Start Restore.

1:24

that? (edited)

υεαπ

1:30

yeap*

what part of it?

1:35

it looks like a create db, import from file

.orgs

Newly awakened redpills can join an organization of their choosing by using the .enlist command followed by the org name. Available organizations are:

Zion
Machine
Merovingian
Cypherite
E Pluribus Neo

Org names are case-sensitive. For example, if you want to join the Merovingian organization, type: .enlist Merovingian

.enlist Merovingian

CybrGhost has enlisted with the Merovingian organization.

.howto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQOD0RJuFrg

.enlist Zion

blalp has enlisted with the Zion organization.

.enlist Zion

majorleek has enlisted with the Zion organization.

nerdSlayer

Death of a Game: Matrix Online

Pretty good video

I thought it lacked some key points, like the combat revision and the bugs that lead to nerfing XP in missions.

Yeah, it wasn't as extensive as it probably should have been. There's a lot more he could have covered, but to get a bird's eye view of why the game shut down, I think he covered everything.

15:11

What bugs me about these kinds of videos is the intros always take way too long

15:11

They don't actually get to the core point of the video until they're like 8 minutes in

1

Reading through the plot of mxo is really interesting

18:34

It really is irreplaceable even if the legacy emulator worked 100% you would need a full active team to recreate it

Well, you don't have to recreate it

18:36

You could create something new, something original

That wasn't really my point

18:57

Of course you could

All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain

1

Raj I know you really liked it

19:05

Were you involved in it very much?

19:05

Seemed like a fun thing to be involved in

did matrix ever have multi people combat

21:29

i remember there was a skill on the skill tree

21:30

or was this something that never really got implemented

We did have multi-person interlock

21:31

but it got removed

21:31

it was a clusterfuck in practice

21:32

I still remember some of the PvP fights in Mara where you'd have 30-40 people all chain locked together

21:32

and you'd have to wait for everyone to take their turn

are you one of the original devs?

Not a dev, just someone who played from Beta to the end

Ssh just lie.

LOL

pre-SOE CR1 had multi interlock yes

21:41

because there were not much out-of-interlock MA abilities

21:41

multi interlock was a disaster to whoever got multi interlocked

21:41

just get bitch slapped forever until you die (it also looked real silly) (edited)

21:42

the "free action" MA moves that came in CR2 are a replacement for it

Like I said, giant clusterfuck

21:43

also lagged the server to hell

so are the animations for multi combat still there?

21:47

also did you ever find the code/animation for wall jumps?

everything's still there

21:50

including rolls

I loved the idea of multilock but it should have been limited from the get go

I wonder if you can put up the spooky Halloween stuff

23:07

It is October

mxo had enough haloween near the end of live

23:13

to last a lifetime

23:14

its just pure black night + some hardline decorations

Awww

Multi Interlock - this what it reminds me too

Was an event (in 2005 ) where 10 people or so could interlock with the agent

yes it was so overkill that you could kill 255 agents with it

Remember when we managed to spawn like a billion of them with that

well i still love the old combat system and the Combat Revision was a real desaster at all and one of the root cause for the death of MxO. Players didnt accept this system really and left the game. Yeah it was buggy and if you was a hacker you could stun your enemy for 20 seconds and fire everything on damage viruses what you had

23:44

But this was fun - and SOE took this fun and said "naah they dont need it" There where some others funny things too in Pre-CR2 (like a coat in the hideout which had the Sneak Ability - so if you wear you didnt need to load it). And some stats for glasses and the bandana (after the CR2 Release all of them was near useless).

23:45

And the other root cause was the early death of morpheus (as they didnt had the license to show laurence fishbourne in the game)

I'm pretty sure the original combat system had some serious balance issues

23:49

Not saying CR 2.0 didn't have balancing issues as well. MKT was fucking OP in CR 2.0

original combat system seemed to heavily favor the Hacker tree

yeah this is right - they just moved it from hacker to MKT

With the right gear it was relatively easy to evade an MKT as a martial artist

23:50

But there were some crazy min-maxers that had ridiculously strong builds

23:50

I can't remember who the top MKT on Vector was, but whenever he got me I just took my hands off the keyboard and took a bathroom break

lol

i think it is a bad idea to take something that players like - so this was a hard decision for the devs for CR2

CR2 was needed though

in other MMOs no stun is longer than 2-3 seconds - so 20 was too much lol

23:51

sure - but it was too late

23:51

and whilte it was developed they stopped doing live events

23:52

to concentrate the power to CR2

23:52

...this shit is also 12 years ago but i can remember very well about it

my understanding was the much of CR2 was already developed by Monolith. SOE and the remaining Lith team just wrapped it up shortly after the sale to SOE.

23:53

It was coming anyway

there are different stories out there - some said they start developing right after release

23:53

and some other said that this CR2 was an Idea of SOE as SOE MMOs had this "damage per second" system

23:53

(but as i didnt played any other MMOs from SOE i dont know if this is real)

DPS is not an SOE invention

Than the first story is more true

23:56

Also you remember the Zen Master Tree ?

Yeah, the game wasn't even a year old when SOE came into the picture. I don't believe they could have ripped out the original combat system and implemented CR2 from scratch in just a few months. I have to believe it was already partly in development by Monolith.

It was previosly in the game (like some other abilities) but SOE removed it and said you can exchange it for $info or something

23:57

yeah i think too

Jumping in on how fucking bullshit hacker was in CR1.0

23:57

At level 26, I killed a 50

23:57

in PvP

My only experience with Zen Master was when Brewkro was handing out the abilities shortly before the shutdown

I made a video about it

23:57

posted it on the forums

1

yeah - as a Hacker in Pre-CR1 you had two things and you was the king : 400 Viral Deflection and 400 Viral Accuary - then the cance that you deflect and hit was high enough

In CR1 I remember lone hackers walking into Mara C and wiping out entire groups by themselves and then hyperjumping away. It was ridiculous.

the sideeffect was that MA tried to get 400 VD for PVP

Yeah, MA had to sacrifice a lot of attack points to build defense against hackers

23:59

Was not fun

i was a hacker so for me - it was fun

I maintained Kung Fu Grandmaster through the life of the game

but MA was still much cooler with the moves

I did some coding and crafting for LESIG, but KFGM was my jam

2

hehe - well i loved my hacker trees ..but there was other funny things you could do in MxO ...

0:01

remember the marcos ?

yeah

if you was near enough to the hardline and you was in combat and think "oh this hacker abilities arent a good idea - lets switch" ..just hit the button and switch the loadout...in the combat

Macros made it easy to swap gear mid-fight based on what you were up against

0:02

exactly

or one thing (that got removed by SOE) was that you could target a player by command and you saw the distance where he was ^^ really helpful in pvp

I had a macro that did the jackout sequence and swapped clothes at the same time, so my character would vanish in a swirl of code and reappear with a new outfit

Hahaha nice

Did that a lot for live events

lol cool manic

swapping between RP and PVP outfits

Very nice

and this was great things

anyway, time for me to head home

0:03

o7

I was too stupid to figure out macros.

0:03

Cya Manic

oh yeah - cya Manic

0:04

the point is that these where funny things but sure they where something like you normally couldnt do in an MMO - but in MxO you could

0:06

so but know i must go to bed too - i did participate on the 72 Hour Dreamhack GameJam last weekend and should sleep now

Karate was were it was at yo

oh and they removed AIM lol - hell they removed too much stuff lol...but anyway AIM was not the fault ^^

0:08

so good night

@Manic Velocity That's awesome stuff!

it was kind of sad

20:55

i missed the RP events

20:55

would have made for a better experience for me

20:55

i got sick of grinding

20:56

vehicles and melee weapons when?

fucking LOL

We eventually got decorative swords magically attached to our backs

21:13

And they clipped through your RSI if you chose the biggest body type

Oh yea, I remember those. I also remember the ninja costume

I missed lots of LEs. Nothing infuriated me more than learning a live event went down while i was online, dancing in Mara C

8:41

I get it when I failed to solve puzzles in the Sentinel. But to learn that rarebit or a lesig contacted certain players for events pissed me off.

Yea, they really should've done that part of MxO better

It really sucked when they gutted AIM from the client, because you could add LE characters to your friends list and see when they were online, whether you were logged in or not

22:09

It was so cool to be able to chat with faction mates using the AIM client on my phone

22:09

Felt like the future had arrived

1

Why did they gut that feature?

Can't remember exactly. I think it had something to do with AOL being a competitor to Sony?

Ahh

22:12

I wonder if you can hook Discord up to MxO

I talked with a game developer at EVE Vegas last year and brought that up with him. Giving games more social aspects by integrating things like Discord into their chat systems. He loved the idea, but said most publishers wouldn't like the idea of not being in complete control of every aspect of their game.

22:15

Doesn't mean it can't be done

22:16

Discord's API is pretty extensive, from what I understand

Cool

ya you can link it up to mxo (edited)

0:12

if it is written in a langauge that has basic file features i can do it

Just hooking it in might not be hard good luck actually doing anything with it lol

https://github.com/george99g/QDiscord https://github.com/DiscordPP/discordpp https://github.com/BleuGamer/Discorded 3 discord apis written in C++

george99g/QDiscord

QDiscord - An unofficial C++ and Qt wrapper for the Discord API.

DiscordPP/discordpp

discordpp - A Discord Library written in C++.

BleuGamer/Discorded

Discorded - C/C++ Discord API/Bot.

Yes I understand

0:48

Like I said just getting it in there I don't think would be a problem

0:49

But mxo's engine is absolute tism

0:49

Good luck getting it to correspond with any game functions

What about UE4's engine?

>ue4's engine

0:50

So ue4?

0:50

Lol

You know what I meant

0:50

Just answer the question

Yeah you could definitely get in there no problem

Thank you

I thought they were referring to legacy mxo

Not like discord is a priority

They may have been

If that's a goal for new mxo can definitely be done yeah

0:51

But not really that important

wtf you idiots yappin about

Just idiotic stuff

0:53

You know how we do

you can serverside integrate whatever you want

0:56

and on ue4 you can add whatever the hell you want to the client too

@rajkosto http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/stop_penis_erect_archer.gif

1

rajko, when are you going to make MXO great again?

We need a wall, and SWG is gonna pay for it!

We need a Firewall.

1:46

Hahaha get it?

Raj that was my point

2:05

Ue4 you can do whatever you want

2:05

I find it difficult to believe you could properly integrate discord into legacy mxo

2:05

Maybe just awkwardly shove it in but what purpose would it serve

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=130&v=KlZfuvbQ1RE

Alex Luthor

The Matrix 4: Rebooted Teaser Trailer (Fan Trailer)

so

13:21

where the hell do i download the game

13:21

i dont see a download anywhere

13:26

am i missing something?

.howto

http://mxoemu.info/forum/archive/index.php?thread-955-1.html

@cat

@Manic Velocity thank you kindly!

hey guys, been unplugged for a few weeks/months, what have I missed?

Emulator launches tomorrow

All of your favorite characters and favorite features of the original MMO will be there

whoa what? so I can play the game regular? just in single player?

21:34

any chance of lan compatibility?

We're kidding

ohhh

21:35

didn't think so

21:35

just got excited

The Emulator will never be "finished."

;_;

It'll always be worked on

21:35

However you can jack in right now and Hyperjump, and explore the city

I have been on occasion, just hoping there might be some progress

It's like the Colorado River carved out the Grand Canyon

21:38

It's a slow and steady progress kind of thing

see now I miss living in Denver

21:51

thanks Obama

If the game was remade in a new engine, it would be pretty neat to have the combat redone to reticle based

The game is being remade in another engine, and screw that, that means no interlock

yo

I forget what interlock was

Interlock is what made the combat look like the fighting in the movies

Although MxO didn't have all the moves from the movies

2:54

Like wall running

It did have a wall kick in CR1.0

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guys how do you hymper jump?

2:28

can seem to figure i tout

You gotta free your mind.

2:33

Seriously though, there is an ability that allows you to HJ that you can equip to your Hotbar

Yeah i forgot about that

2:48

havent fucking loggged for soooo long dude

2:48

thanks <e3

2:49

❤

No problem

Ah the fucking feels I swear

Get the tissues ready

2:49

The feels train is coming

it already hit me

2:49

feelsgoodman

2:49

now to wait for a functioning version of it

lol

^^ exactly

We all are

has raji said anything?

2:50

or any updates i missed

Not since the beginning of this year

dang

Some of the vendors work though

2:51

So you can buy stuff

ill have a look more tonight

2:52

i got into it very late

2:52

i played the beta

2:52

and then got into it for a while, left came back and it wuz goneeee

Ahh

i still have the og hardcopy here

F.K. in the coffee

What?

21:16

Anyone have these files still?

@Metalogic It's a Deadly Premonition reference, or so says Mr. Stewart (edited)

21:37

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK1iDIcnHQg

Sam

FK... In the coffee

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Ahh gotcha

0:09

Name a player that earned this reward

ArchAngel. : >

Phrack

0:12

My entire faction (LEG10N) (edited)

Ebola

1

Nighttrace

Brewko

T-Bone

Metalogic. He was a real asshole

13:12

: >

Him that shalln't be named

Hey, whatever happened to @Parapsycho

1:51

?

So I have a question. On the Attributes screen where it gives me 2% bonus for such and such

23:44

Is that like 2% of my character level?

no you get 2% more with every upgrade point

So if I have Focus at 8, then it's 2% of that 8?

huh

Wait

it upgrades "Combat Toughness" etc by 2% each point

Okay

23:49

I think I'm getting it now

23:50

So if my C.T. is at 50, then it upgrades the base 50 by 2% per point

23:52

So that means if my points level is at 4, then that's 8%

23:52

C.T. would be 50 with 8% bonus

23:54

Am I anywhere closee to right or am I being an idiot again?

http://mxoemu.info/CR2.pdf

23:58

theres 2 layers not just one

23:59

attributes affect influences, influences affect ability numbers

23:59

and yes its only ability numbers, its why stacking was a thing

Man, Monolith just made this as complicated as they could, didn't they?

aka, put on % clothes, activate hacker style (ability), then put on diffeerent % clothes

23:59

ability evaluates numbers at time of activation

TBH, I never did stacking

0:00

Mainly because I was too stupid to figure it out at the time

0:01

I'm starting to see why combat was kind of a mess

btw any sort of "effect" on your stats was coded as an "ability"

0:01

even if you cant see it as an icon/thing you can activate

0:02

thats why theres things like silver bullet ability

Oh yea, I remember using the silver bullet on some of the exiles

0:02

That was fun

its not an ability tho

0:02

you activate an item, which grants you an ability

Ahh

ok then how about being inside the area of effect of a health draining attack

0:03

thats also an ability

0:03

that reduces your health

Wouldn't that be a AOE though?

the ability you cast is an AOE

0:04

anyone in the range GETS a secret ability that drains their health

Jesus

0:04

They really did make it as complicated as they could

0:05

Jesus, might as well revamp the entire system.

nothing wrong with it

Okay

0:06

I'm just trying to figure out how to plot this out in a spreadsheet

hello]

Howdy

Been lurking and playing random games.

Ahh, I just remembered you were working on combat calculations lol

ah. yeah.

0:56

I'm good at starting things, not so much at finishing them

Yea, I have the same issue, not going to lie.

is it snow now

22:12

you americans probably cant even connect because of net neutrality sorry

was that vote 2 days ago or 5 days from now?

I think it's on the 14th

22:22

Also did you turn on the snow @rajkosto ?

is itn ot snow

Clear skies on my end

let me restart it again with a different sky then

Okay

22:23

Let me know when it's back up

is it snow yet ?

22:47

i think it still doesnt snow forever

22:47

just periodically

Jacking in to see

22:48

I'll wait around for the rain/snow to start and get back to you

i just set it to WinterSky1

22:49

theres 1 2 3

Okay

22:49

Well we'll wait for the snow and we'll see

22:54

Right now just hanging out in the projects

22:54

We be in the projects son!

22:59

Not going to lie, I love how the leaflet that The General dropped from his helicopter is still here.

22:59

I think it used to say "Do not Trust The Frenchman" but now it says "The System is A Lie."

it says both

Ahh cool

Still no snow.

23:23

No rain either

you can speed up your simtime

How?

@rajkosto How do I speed up simtime?

dont remember something about Sim_Time_Scale (edited)

k

try &setVar Sim_Time_Scale float 100.0

Yep, that sped up time

0:00

and we got snow

0:03

We got snow and regular rain, so wintery mix?

remember its a 7 day calendar

True

0:06

So I guess there's no way to make it snow all the time?

how about now

Hold on

0:10

Nope

nope what

0:11

accelerate time and see if it snows more than last time

Oh

0:11

Sorry I misunderstood

0:13

No, the snow period is shorter

but maybe it will snow more

0:13

next day

Okay

0:14

Oh yea, it snowed longer on the second day

just wait for itme to do its thing then

Awesome

0:15

Thank ye Rajkosto

so whats the differenece between this emulator and hardline dreams?

MxOEMU actually works

hmm well they opened a server oon hardline dreams, unless what i see is old information

They have a server, but it's ham-strung together.

4:13

They basically hacked the game into giving the illusion of it working. Whereas Rajkosto's code actually does work. I mean, it's not 100% done, but what is there, is actually there.

Hi

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@rajkosto This is just me being curious again, how hard would it be to set up at UE4 test server? j/w

pretty hard cosnidering its nowhere near anything like that ?

Oh, okay

So you basically have the world ported in and the ability for you to spawn a player entity to move around it yourself in the editor, but no multiplayer server coding yet?

@rajkosto, I just found this game, and have been exploring the files, this far i have been able to load in the .Mga files and the .Moa files, plus a few of the textures. Is this UE project open source or?

how can you load the mga files and the moa files ?

c++ and opengl

nothing is open source after 2010

ok

So what is the current state of the UE4 port?

@rajkosto http://prntscr.com/hlr1me Idk why the mesh is so broken, maybe i am doing something wrong. That is "resource/GameObjects/vehicles/taxi/taxi_white.moa"

Is that a motorcycle?

its called taxi_white

Ahh

@Swift whats your end goal

To have fun

moa are just index files that reference other assets

0:24

dunno where youre screwing up

yeah the problem is probably in the MGA

0:24

unless its suppsed to be broken

I don't recall a taxi model in the game

0:24

Could be wrong

No, MxO had taxis

0:24

They just weren't yellow

0:24

I think they were like green and white?

0:25

I know we've gone over this a thousand times, but I think Raj current problem with the UE4 port is the FX files.

@Swift its not.

oh, i know why its not loading properly

these are mgc not mga

0:28

I have yet to figure out how to decide the type based on the id

the filetype is in the 2nd word of the rez info

0:28

look at rezmap.lta

ok

I had a thought today

0:30

I was listening to a paranormal podcast "Beyond the Darkness" and they were talking about Krampus.

0:30

I had this thought of what if we could replace the giant snow monsters in the Holiday missions with Krampus.

@Swift https://images.sshnuke.net/2017-12-11_00-31-56.png

0:32

thats taxi_white.moa

ahh, yeah thats way better

That looks nice

ahh thats way better http://prntscr.com/hlr5fx

0:33

not able to find index count of mgc, so i just did while(!eof)

dont know what mgc is

resource/GameObjects/vehicles/taxi/geometry/tire0.mgc

That's a nice looking model.

@Swift they are all mga

A bit blocky, but most cars in the 90s were blocky

dunno where youre getting .mgc filenames from

Do we have different clients? i use packmap_save.lta to get the ids, names, offsets and lengths (edited)

dont use that with my patched client

0:35

i provide rezmap.lta

@Swift are you able to figure out how to port in the FX files?

haha, i just got models loading

not even touched FX files (edited)

Ah poo

I am a bit late to the game

either way they arent .mgc in packmap_save.lta either

0:37

what they are in mine

You two need to join forces

i got mga here too

@Metalogic for what purpose

0:38

2800060B 00050205 alias 280001B3

0:38

its the same file

0:38

the extension doesnt matter btw, .xxA is supposed to be ascii source file

To distribute the load to another programmer? @Swift seems to know what he's doing.

but we have mgb

ahha

the filenames arent distributed with the client

0:38

it was only by a fluke that we got packmap_save.lta

oh

(the station launcher needed filenames to display while it patched)

so i should be using rezmap (edited)

the game loads all from rezmap.ltb which has no filename

0:40

the first 16bits of the 2nd word in rezmap.lta is the file type

this is exciting to watch

It's all rocket science to me

haha, cant figure out this rezmap.ltb i got the three? arrays one of them contains the name of the packfile

(edited)

you cant just hex edit your way through

yeah, just got the formatish, atleast the id, offset and length

2:10

still 44 unknown bytes in the middle though

they have krampus in star trek online winter event

ok that's awesome

@rajkosto any idea why my textures gets so broken? http://prntscr.com/hmziye

oh no baby waht is you doing

15:58

I tried so many different compressions, currently this is DXT5

they can be any one of DXT formats, as well as RGB16 and V8U8

16:01

just gotta replace the custom header with dds header and its a dds file

Mhm that's what I thought still not done the rgb and v8u8

this looks like it just has errors all over tho ?

16:10

most are dxt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEzhxP-pdos

BobRobster

For when someone posts a compressed image/uses Windows XP to save a jpeg...

Yeah some places are pretty good but it's like sudden changes to color breaks it

16:17

Might just be my dxt5 decompressor that's broken

are you doing something silly like not opening the files in binary mode

16:17

wait, why are you decompressing ?!

Because opengl can't do dds

you just upload those blobs STRAIGHT to the gpu

16:17

yes it can

Hmm I'll try that then

https://github.com/paroj/nv_dds

paroj/nv_dds

nv_dds - DDS image loader for OpenGL/ OpenGL ES2

16:18

but you can upload the blob manually anyway, just set the correct texture format

Yeah uploading straight to GPU works

http://prntscr.com/hn0rgg

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now we lookin

17:14

like a PS1 game

17:14

the GFX engine only has basic diffuse light

Is that the interior of the subway car?

yeah

Doesn't look too bad. I think it just look weird because of the lighting

its correct i beilve, but yeah its super simple light

17:52

improved the light shader a bit http://prntscr.com/hn1eov

Nice

17:58

Is this UE4?

nah, its my own engine, i am doing this to get better at opengl

Ahh nice

@Swift where are you getting textures and models from

16:17

what format are the textures /models in

Textures are dds, models are a custom format

16:28

And they are stored uncompressed in pack maps

16:28

Using rezmap as index

you can call textures a custom format too by that account

16:32

the header isnt dds

Yeah true

16:39

But the mesh format isn't similar to any I have seen before

and youre probably misinterpreting some part of it

16:43

you havent encoutered properly skinned meshes yet

how are you extracting the verticies and model data then

16:55

if they are in a custom format?

16:55

basically I am asking what tools/methods are you using to reverse engineer Mxo

16:56

are you using asm to look up on how the data is read

16:56

or have some other way to extract the info

I just use 010

are you guessing the templates though?

16:57

or how do you know what the structure will be

16:57

cool tool btw

It's mostly guess work some reverse engineering on the client

16:58

Yeah @rajkosto i cant read the skinned

16:59

I have encountered them

you cant do it with just hex editors

Like I said some reverse engineering of client code

17:02

Using ida

17:02

Had to do that to get rezmap

you dont need rezmap tho, you have a text version

ida

Binary formats is way faster to read in cpp debug mode, because string operations are slow in debug

how do you know where to set break points though

17:09

i.e. where in the code is the reading parsing done

Uhm by looking for the part of code that interacts with the rezmap string

17:11

I am still pretty new at reverse engineering so I can't help alot

no worries

17:11

the mxo code has insane number of jumps just to do basic stuff

17:13

But after working with hex for as long as I have you start to see patterns in the hex, like identifying arrays and stuff

0xdeadbeef

17:13

0xbaadf00d

Very rarely used in production files

17:14

Mxo uses 0xffffffff alot

i use it a lot when looking at the code

Like sections are almost terminated with that 0xffffffff

Personally I'd love to know how you extracted the skins of the model

17:42

The models are good, but they could use a new skin

send nudes

17:58

i mean put nudes on the models

@Metalogic what does that even mean

Re-skinning the models @rajkosto

yes what do you mean by that

I create new textures for the model

ok ?

18:03

you have been able to view the textures forever with txatools

18:03

txa -> dds and vice versa

I was just curious if it was possible to extract the texture files so they can be updated.

even before that, remember the bazmans making the nipple mods lol ?

18:05

or people looking @ persephone's crotch

lol

18:05

Persephone is a program, she has no needs for reproductive parts

she has a landing strip or whatever (edited)

18:06

merv has nothing tho

Kind of kinky, I like it.

i misremembered, just a lil hair (edited)

hey is it possible to use coordinates to get into club hell

I'm pretty sure you can access Club Hel from the parking garage

21:26

Are you in the simulation right now?

21:30

Yea, you can totally access Club Hel from the parking garage

ill check real quick

21:58

was curious since it used to be only tied to missions

Well it's not tied to missions anymore

i can't even rember what the closest hardline is

It's in Hampton Green in Downtown

wich hardline is closest?

22:02

thers several in hampton green

Hold on

22:07

Hampton Green NW is the closes one

ah every floor aparently is club hell

Yep yep

ok was curious if we could get there

We can get to any mission area in the game

now if we could just get an events team or something and get some rp going on we can have some fun

Well, we still have to teleport to the org areas.

and we need to use the archivist for that don't we

No, I meant the Org areas. You could only access them with a very expensive key

22:17

We have the org areas, but not the key

oh shit, there's a name I haven't seen in a long ass time. sup Deff?

14:52

@Deffdog that is

Org areas might be access able.

15:16

Deff might be right. Might just be the &gotopos commands

sup buddy how goes

All is well.

Hello.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAW_YviNeiY Old school girls

David Flowers

Girls Gone Wild Matrix Style

anyone jacked in?

None of the girls were intentionally hurt during the making of this video

20:03

That video is a gem. How is it this is the first time I'm watching it?

20:04

I feel like I just leveled up.

20:05

@big money salvia , you can check mxoemu.info and it will show if anyone is logged in.

@Vesuveus I never catch anyone online. :/

waiting for combat to be implemented some day then I'll come back and 1 v 10 you guys

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You're a mad-man.

Hey Synapze

20:10

Weren't you reposco?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRB8m5IObM8

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The Matrix Online Music Video - Not Enough

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@rajkosto Did you ever find out what the green areas were? https://www.thematrix.rumbaar.net/Custom/MxO_City_Guide/images/megacity.jpg

19:07

Were they future expanisons, or is that where all the constructs were hidden?

D-a-y-tooonaa

19:18

no

19:18

nobody knows

19:18

might just be art

I wonder what new things will be added to mxoemu in 2018

Vehicles!

0:59

Ninja swords!

1:00

Moddable clothing!

bong bong bong happy new year to the britbongs

Happy 1999!!

I'm getting a Matrix/MxO tattoo in 2018/1999

Why would you ever do that Vesuveus

I just want one. Got a cool design picked out. Have always thought about adding that code character from the map into the tattoo design. That's what made me think of it.

tatoos aint cool unless they mean you killed a man tho

21:05

just to watch him die

Red=Dead

so have there been any new updates for the game?

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The answer

20:13

Is no

Aw

21:46

@Vesuveus dont listen to these dorks, can i see the design?

Yeah let me dig it out

3:43

Or

3:43

Oooo second one

5:46

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Ahh, very nice

That never gets old

But srsly nobody understands that shit

6:17

No one else gets references or the names

6:17

You just can't share that anywhere else

6:17

But here

The fucking end of it always makes me laugh

6:23

"Tell them I blame Keith"

We all blame Keith.

Ik it's great

6:24

Start a goodbye thread ik there will be hundreds of them but I want mine front page . Tell them I blame Keith.

We all blame Keith.

@bitbomb easier to just add a simtime modulus

Um. Ok?

so people who were on when the boundary is crossed

7:01

will get glitchy time until they relog

7:01

but that will be rare

@bitbomb the default calendar is 28 days (each day is 1 hour in real time) so i will modulus at 28 or 56 hours

Aha

@bitbomb see if i broke anything just now

Not near pc, shouldd be fucking sleeping

7:38

Gotta be up in 5hrs, will jug in when i get to work

playing games at work

oh shit i forgot

16:59

but yeah it's not quite playing games, but I chill in mixo at work all the time

You forgot about Dre!?

FUGGODDABOUT DRE

We promised Eminem we would never forget about Dre!!

fugeddaboudit

Just like we promised Texans that we'd never forget the Alamo

7/11 was a part time job

proceeds to stab Bitbomb with a rusty spoon

jugged in, everything looks good so far

17:12

usually takes a day or so for sync loss to start being noticeable

17:12

will keep an eye on it

wait for uptime to be > 28 hours and then see if shit still works right

How do we check uptime?

a day from now

No I mean, do we type /uptime in game or?

i dont think theres anything like that

there was probably an admin command for that

17:27

but I'm sure it's nothing us normies can use

17:27

but who knows maybe not,

17:28

maybe that was server side only

17:28

actually yeah, why would you put an uptime function in teh client

You know, a nightly server reset wouldn't be out of the question, at least canonically

17:43

One of the theories as to why we need sleep is for our brain to reset itself, to clear out all the cache, so to speak

17:44

What if The Matrix did the same thing?

@bitbomb we still good on the hyperjumps ?

@rajkosto Hyperjumping good on my end (for now)

@rajkosto smooth as butter

Buttah

mmmmmbuddah

14:48

by jove i think you've done it, still perfecto

14:49

SHIT'S ALMOST AS GOOD AS HARDLINE DREAMS YO

14:49

lol

Oh trust me, Rajkosto could come out with a half baked combat system that'd still be better than Hardline dreams.

lol have you connected to it?

16:44

they have it loaded up with 50 zillion mobs wandering around, way way way more than it can handle

16:44

no idea why they put so many

16:44

they're so dense you can't read the names above their heads, they're just these big clusters

Also, not all of combat works

runs like shit, I'm sure it runs fine over LAN

I think only ranged weapons work?

not for real tho

16:45

and doors don't even work : /

Well that's the key feature right there

heh

NO DOORS, NO DEAL

Hahaha

it runs worse than mxosource did

16:46

that combat was super fake and super basic

16:46

but it was still fun beating on mobs and looting them for random stuff

16:46

and gaining levels

I never tried MxOSource combat

aw

16:46

it's gone now

What happened?

it was a mess but it was fun

16:46

db crashed, the code was such a fuckmess,

16:47

I rewrote a bunch of it, I can't believe it actually worked at all,

16:47

and Rajko fixed it so it would actually compile and run on linux

Nice

the code was complete insanity

16:47

but it was all based on replaying captured packets, so it was unstable as fuck

I bet

it was neat tho

Gods I love the 90s feel of MxO

16:48

All we need is combat and missions lol

oh and basic missions worked

16:49

but it was just a test mission

Missions did not work at all in HLD

I didn't even have the patience to try much stuff out on HLD because the lag was so fucking insane

16:50

they need to tone down the mobs by like 1/50th

16:50

the fuck are there so many for

16:50

it makes no sense

Stress test?

that would be too logical

16:50

it's showing off, for sure

16:50

knowing 'neo'

lol

LOOK HAU MANY THERE R

16:51

And if it's a stress test it failed already anyway

16:51

it absolutely cannot handle it

16:51

lag-o-meter stays in the red constantly

Eww

16:51

On MxOEMU, I barely get that one green bar

also why HLD's launcher has to be elevated is beyond me

16:54

every time you run it, it requires elevation

16:55

dafuq is that about

I dunno why they don't just use the original MxO launcher.

16:55

It works fine

either way why would it require elevation

16:55

makes no sense

Honestly I think the only thing I'd seriously change about MxO is the interface design. Maybe replace it with like a Microsoft 3.1 GUI layout with an oblique black background.

Windows 3.1?

16:57

that shit was ugly af

Windows 95?

by 95 with cartoon mode disabled it pretty much looked the same through to win 7

16:57

when themes were disabled

16:58

xp had that awful cartoony theme by default

I just like the clean boxes

yeah that's 95

16:58

95/98, and XP with themes disabled

16:58

and 7 with themes disabled

The clean Windows boxes with a semi-clear background would fit in so well with MxO.

only thing I would change is the goddamn copy/paste key combinations lol

16:59

CTRL+HOME and CTRL+INS

lol true

thanks obama

Yea, those are insane

And the fact that you have to use HTML style color codes

16:59

like, dude

16:59

is that really necessary

16:59

just pick a few and make them easy to use, like IRC does

lol

17:00

Yea, the chat could use a simpler interface

no need to make 32 bits worth of color available

17:00

MUST TYPE IN PRECISELY THE CORRECT SHADE

Clean window boxes with IRC chat system

17:01

I remember MxO being connected to A(IM. I wonder if you can connect MxO with Discord

That'd be neat

That was asked before

20:41

I believe the answer was “technically yes but why”

To alert people to Live Events or when a story character was online?

I know MxO had the /rolldice emote, but does anyone remember how to get it to roll between a specific set of numbers?

23:51

Like if I wanted to roll between 1 and 6, how would I do that?

do I hear progress?

(edited)

Nah, you hear the rambling of an old man reminiscing about the good ol' days

Why have discord tied alerts if there are no events and no story

23:21

And no actual mechanics for that matter

23:21

We’re a long way away from that being needed lol

I've been looking at charts and combat stats for MxO

17:48

Who the fuck thought it needed to be this complicated?

17:48

I'd like to stab them in the eyes

17:52

Hmmm

So apparently MxO uses 4 seconds when it comes to Damage Per Second

18:57

Just 4 seconds across the board

So clothing is a bit unique as far as combat goes. It will either take a bonus from each attributes & assign it a points value, except for the Vitality attributes.

14:53

So clothing stats take one bonus from Belief, Perception, Reason & Focus & gives them all the same points value, of say like 15 pts.

14:54

The Vitality Attribute, as far as clothing goes, is a percentage like it'll give you a 2% bonus on Health Regen or IS regen

14:55

As far as I can tell, the Vitality clothes only use one or two bonus per piece of clothing.

where you pasting this from

I'm assuming that Vitality Attribute also works on the 4 seconds rule.

where are you getting the 4 seconds rule

So health regen is like 45 Heal per second.

nah there is an activation time

14:58

the dps is just damage/activation time

Gregory Lane. Apparently he really studied up on MxO combat back in the day.

14:59

Well DPS last for 4 seconds & apparently that is across the board in CR 2.0

15:01

DPS is 4 seconds, HPS is 4 seconds, etc etc

15:04

I'm assuming (BIG assumption) the game has all of your attributes stats, w/clothing and items all tallied up before you enter combat. Your weapons/items, the Power, Block, Speed, withdrawal and the ability you use are calculated during combat.

15:06

@rajkosto could probably get you some mathematical formulas that you can try out. (edited)

@rajkosto What is this activation time you're talking about?

is server down???

No, working for me

how many people on it

1

@rajkosto activation time or casting time seem to be 2 seconds.

23:22

and for the combat dice roll, the game may have use a percentile dice (D100)

23:28

Also, I got the process of how the game process your stats and attributes.

23:30

When you jack into The Matrix, it first calculates your clothes stats. Then once you pick a style, then it calculates the corresponding attributes bonus. In combat, it takes the clothing and attributes bonus calculation and figures it into the ability and weapon/item stats. I'm assuming that this is where the D100 comes in to decide who wins that turn.

So yea, casting time is 2 seconds, according to the animation I was able to play.

One thing I don't know (because I couldn't bring it up in-game) are the stats on the pills, inhalers and the special items like the holy water, stake and silver bullet

@Metalogic The pill stats are on Mxo Stats and Analyses (first wiki link). The second link has all the vendor stats and what items are sold where I went and found all mxo related wikis, and I stumbled upon some forums on the way. I used archive.org (they archive the internet) to get sites that are currently closed wikis: http://web.archive.org/web/20090829221035/http://blogs.cjb.net:80/btlmaster/ http://web.archive.org/web/20131023030623/http://mxovault.ign.com:80/View.php?view=GuidesArchive.List&category_select_id=6 http://web.archive.org/web/20161025060316/http://mxomainframe.com/index.php http://web.archive.org/web/20160306063132/http://archivalscience.shock-therapy.org/ http://mxoarchive.net/ forums: http://www.thematrix.rumbaar.net/ http://mxo.hardlinedreams.com/ http://www.mxostory.mxoemu.info/ http://web.archive.org/web/20100527212331/http://forums.station.sony.com:80/mxo/forums/list.m misc: http://web.archive.org/web/20081020062802/http://www.insurgence-epn.com:80/home.html http://web.archive.org/web/20110208115748/http://matrixreport.com/oldhome.aspx (edited)

Hmmm interesting

Is that the info u needed @Metalogic ?

Yes

23:09

Thank you

Yw

@rajkosto Can you please turn off the snow. It's March, time for spring!

NEVER

23:33

it actually snowed here

23:33

wednesday was coldest day this winter

Ahh

god bless that way back machine

Agreed. It has saved me so many times

Snow here in Bristol is ankle deep

6:15

fucking love it.

@rajkosto How goes it?

How goes the project?

23:09

I've been trying to work on my 3d portfolio... it's a slog.

Last I heard they got some of the abilities like hyperjump working (edited)

4:52

and there is an effort to try and find the old server code (edited)

Hyperjump does work, yes, but it can be a bit laggy sometimes.

not anymor

I noticed that the hyperjump lands with that splash of green code from Hyper-Jump Beta

cuz its cooler

Agreed

5:57

It feels so weird being back in the matrix

5:57

I missed this place

rajkosto do you have any intension to make this open source?

aint making that mistake again

Sounds like there is a story there

6:44

Does anyone have a list of the clothing input for the appearance editor? Im trying to get my old beta clothes back and I cant seem to find the pants or boots

nvm found them in the forums

@rajkosto Would love to know what you've been working on since the last update, if it be texture stuff or even lines of error codes etc.

Is Hardline Dreams still being updated?

As far as I know yes

HLD is a mess

There’s pros and cons to both projects

18:45

Since both teams have 1 developer working on two massive projects then there is bound to be some differences

would be good if people made some mxo related mods for other games

20:36

just to keep the lore going

20:37

i remember bitbomb used to host unreal tournament with some matrix skins/mods

20:37

good times

UT04 has a sweet Matrix mod

I understand the wish for accuracy but an mxo-inspired successor in a modern engine would be the best bet if you wanted to keep the whole story going or start from the beginning and play it all out again

20:43

Just because of how long it will take for the emulator or UE4 project to get to a place of stability and features where that can happen (edited)

thing is, the franchise itself is not doing anything

21:03

not only there is no MXO clone, but no other games with matrix-like content

21:04

even if there is emulator that is working, someone still has to develop content for it, like missions, characters, story arcs

I would never expect the franchise itself to do anything

21:05

Matrix is a dead property

21:05

I’m saying a small team into the idea of mxo should create a successor

21:06

Problem is the only people who would take that on are doing the emulators and it’s not entirely fair to ask them to just drop it and start fresh unless it’s of their own volition

That's true

21:08

I do have some story ideas for MxO

would it be a good idea to create a Matrix MUD

21:10

just to keep the lore and maybe run events

21:10

so when the emulator is ready

21:10

some of those characters/events/lore could be ported over

21:11

i am thinking of something like how shadowrun is played

21:11

get a group of interested people together

21:11

run an event

21:11

write out some lore in a wiki somewhere

The only problem I see with a Tabletop RPG or a MUD is getting enough people interested. Not everyone is going to want to play just Zion, Merv, Machine, EPN or CYPH

hmm

21:16

i am thinking it may be possible to build a discord bot

21:16

that acts as dm

21:17

i will look into this

Like me, I'm always going to play as CYPH

would you ever play as NPC role, just to be a part of an event

What we could do is play as part of a crew on a hovercraft with no allegiance to one organization or another

A MUD that runs continuously like Aardwolf that’s basically just a text mmo would work

21:21

But frankly

21:21

Nobody would play it

It could be like Rogue One of MxO

21:22

a small band of people in a big universe

Because the story stuff is what people got people to stay, the hook for any matrix game is the promise of getting to do flashy cool shit in the matrix

21:22

A text game does not have that promise

21:23

And any successful reboot or offshoot of this premise needs new people because there is frankly no real community

21:24

And “a bunch of lore that only 3 people actively discuss” isn’t a strong hook

True

I wouldnt consider the Matrix being a dead property. There's been talk recently of a reboot/new movie

Until that actually comes to fruition

21:24

It means little

Eh, they're always talking about a reboot and or new movie, TV, video game etc.

It means the property is still considered valuable by WB

...which means fuck all for mxo or its dead community

21:26

If a new movie is actually made then maybe it’ll spark something

Not necessarily, just because one or two actors or people who worked on the original trilogy floated the idea, doesn't mean WB is on board

But “wb had a talk in a room” isn’t sending droves of people to check mxo out

21:26

So yeah, it doesn’t mean anything for now lol

That because there isn't a MxO server

Why would it send droves of people to an MMO that was considered a failure even when it was live?

Rogue got a point

..but that was my point to begin with

21:27

What are you arguing?

21:28

You took one tiny little semantic of my larger argument and honed in on that instead of what I was actually trying to discuss

21:28

Which is how to make this more than a nonexistent niche

I’m saying a small team into the idea of mxo should create a successor Because it's not a dead property and that's going to get C&D'd into oblivion

21:29

The only reason MxO Emu isnt gone is because it isnt drawing attention or making money

To be fair, MxO EMU talks came like a decade or two after Revolutions.

The copyright is likely also tied up in some fucked up limbo between WBIE, Monolith, and Daybreak

21:30

Just like all of Monolith's properties from back then

Who said call it “OFFICIAL MATRIX ONLINE SUCCESSOR 2018”

So it's on no one radar because the franchise isn't on anyone's radar

kaydara online when

Do you not know that a successor can mean more than a licensed sequel

If you mean a "spiritual" successor, no one is going to be interested in a matrix-like property that isn't actually "The Matrix"

With that logic every matrix flash game is going to get c&d’ into oblivion for making the same promise as the ps2 games

21:31

Nobody said make it an international success

21:31

But right now it isn’t even a niche

21:31

It’s completely dead

21:32

It needs some sort of foundation to at least maintain a double digit player count and have things continually added to it

COOOOL IN DENIAL

1

We need combat

21:32

Pew pews and flying kicks

Why did I play and love the Matrix Online: Interesting world. I was a massive fan of the movies and cyberpunk. And I wanted to be in that world.

I do not understand the resistance to literally everything

21:35

Is this where you want it to sit?

21:36

It’s not raj’s fault he has other duties to attend to, but that doesn’t change the fact that this probably isn’t going anywhere as it stands now

thing is, what is everyone else in the community doing...

We have a bounty out right now for the server code, but there's fuck all that most of us can contribute right now

bounty?

Metalogic, Phrack, and Myself have a writer's room for figuring out story but its slow because we have nothing to work with

Foundation > Story

21:39

Is my point

that is actually pretty awesome

21:40

are you guys putting it anywhere, like a wiki or a website

21:40

hell you could even create a github repo that hosts it

But we already know fuck all is being done with the original engine, that’s why the UE4 project was started

21:40

But trying to work directly with the assets is causing more trouble

and the UE4 project stalled out

I’m saying you need a blank slate

21:40

Or quite a few more people

@rajko how much for your c code?

i dont have any

I'd help out, but Im a medical researcher and law student, not a game programmer ._.

I think he means your server code @rajkosto

your old server code that you wrote in C

21:42

with serialization, margin and all the fun stuf

never wrote any server code in C

c++11

21:42

with boost

why would you want that

Boost is stupid

maybe someone can use it to host old mxo server

boost is grate

create stuff for it

21:43

if i could open source, it, i could release my java stuff too

who are these mythical beings who would work on it

Like to point out that if you ever get around to making that crowdsourcing program for the fx identification, I'd take time to work with it

Same here

insane amount of code needed for taht gui

And no time to code it?

Any possibility to put it into unreal? I've had UDK installed forever

ehhh

21:45

why not make some unreal fx first

21:45

and then give them to rajko to port

UDK is old crap ?

aren't you using UDK rajko?

no

21:45

ue4

UE4 > udk to the power of infinity (edited)

theres no reason to consider any engine that doesnt offer full source

21:46

since theres a lot of changes i had to make to ue4 even so far

Whatever fucking one is on the Epic launcher

21:46

jeez

You play Fortnite?

No, I play UT

Oh

Was going to try to make some levels for it but dont have the time

21:47

and Epic stopped dev on it in October

21:47

pulled the entire UT team over to Fortnite

GOTTA MAKE THE BATTLE ROYALE DOSH

Fortnite is the new hot stuff

Can’t wait for it to die

Anyways, back to MxO

Although whatever dumb trend replaces it will also be cancerous

It's just canerous because we're getting old and we're no longer the target audience.

Nah it’s a straight up exploited trend

21:49

Just like survival games have been

21:49

From 2012-2017

21:49

We’re just in the next phase

If it takes a trend and improves on it, I wouldnt consider it exploited

maybe we should make a MxO with zombie, craft, survival

it's also far closer to the action-arcade shooters we havent seen in a decade

/s

Like, if there's a team I trust out there, it's Epic Games

Is there an easier engine we can port MxO over to? @rajkosto

Nah, UE4 is going to be the easiest dev environment

Nothing says action arcade throwback like sitting in a bush for 30 minutes with a sniper on a massive empty map

you can laa dee daa dee doo daa dee da bee doooya

Okay Uncle Reemus

Compared to H1Z1 and PUBG, Fortnite is miles faster

21:51

It applies to those two more I know

halflife 1 professional mod

Fortnite literally makes fun of bush campers

Those 2 are, by the way, incredibly exploitative

that is where it is at

Well, we still need to figure out a way to get FX identifiers into UE4

Hasn’t this been the issue

Gonna be honest, the FX from the original game has not aged well

For months and months

it needs a total redraw

21:52

and UE has an actual particle system

^ sticking strictly to the source is slowing things down and it isn’t even that good looking

The issue you run into is its not going to match the rest of the game if you make it too good

ok go hire 300 artists to make all the assets needed

21:53

and then what

Ok

whatever assets are fine

Done

Hmmm

21:53

Actually I think we can hire some artist

21:53

Like one or two?

Nothing says we can do this like constant pessimism

MxO had more artists in its community than any MMO Ive ever been a part of from then to nopw

Fan art isn’t quite the same as texture work to be fair

21:54

Unless you actually mean professional artists

Those folks have also had a fucking decade to get better, we're all in our 30s and 40s at this point

@d3ad i mean the assets in the original client are fine

21:55

except maybe the very rigid animations if you want a more fluent combat system

At this point would it not be faster to just get a visual reference for the fx and make a “close enough” recreation in UE4

nah

21:56

theres just so many fx

21:57

and theres reference to fx all over the gameobjects and such

Make a few placeholders and fill them in later?

21:57

Nobody ever said it had to be pretty in alpha

i started work on fx because

21:57

FOOTSTEPS

21:57

fx references even in god damn animations

Serious question, would it be easier to just rebuild the game from the ground up in UE4?

no

I am of the opposite opinion

21:58

Ground up needs more people

21:58

But it won’t be as much of a mindfuck puzzle

ground up you end up with what

21:58

a room on a highway in gta4

?

21:59

Are you dismissing actual game development lol

21:59

Because that’s what ground up would mean

you end up with vr.inter.net

Again, needs people, a lot more than what’s here now, but if those people were there it would take waaay less time than this

ok why arent they there

Because they don’t just magically flock to you?

why arent they anywhere ?

I mean, Ive seen a lot of people offer help in the past Rajkosto, but you turn them down

@RogueA i dont

I don’t exactly see you pushing to find people or promote this effort at all

what happens is typical human behaviour

22:01

where they "offer" help

22:01

then when they see that they actually have to put in effort

To be fair to @rajkosto , people do volunteer and he doesn't stop them, but once they see how much work is involved, they poof

or how large the scope of things are

22:01

they give up after a few days

22:01

and i never hear from them again

>therefore close source everything and scoff at everything like an edgy teenager

22:02

Good alternative

You're also not making it easy for them to stay. You have your code locked up tight and arent allowing anyone to see the project or contribute in any meaningful way

ok

Am I wrong?

rajko closed sourced because people took credit for his work

22:03

so he told them to fuck off

@RogueA who wants to contribute in a meaningful way

But how can people HELP if you cant even see whats being worked on?

>someone isn’t here now therefore nobody is ever going to help

people can help by building their own reality server

ok keep arguing have fun

Like, we've been talking about the fucking fx tables for a year now

i havent done anything for more than a year

22:04

someone volunteered to make the fx editor thing, i gave him all the code needed

22:04

after a few days never heard from again

Then why lock it up or care about people stealing shit, if it’s dead to you as well what is the point of all this

not dead to me

22:05

i invested a lot of effort into it

Why not open source specific parts of it at least that you want worked on, keep the core server code to yourself but something like the fxeditor code, put a package out there for people to look at and build something off of

because this is what happened

22:06

it doesnt matter if they have all the resources

22:06

its not a paying job

22:06

so they dont work on it

I actually like the idea of making the code open source.

people who do that as a day job get paid a lot of moneys to do what they do and they dont want to do it as a hobby for free

M8 I’ve watched a group of people disassemble and completely convert a Pokémon game to C. No payment. If there’s a community and continual development people are interested

yes because the pokemon community is very large

Black Mesa was built with zero hope for pay until they were almost complete and Steam opened up Greenlight

and people are crazy for it for some reason

Yeah it had dev troubles, but every project does

would it be possible to buy some off your work

Which one was Black Mesa?

like the gameobj decoding and movement etc

22:09

view creation/update etc

Black Mesa was the complete recreation of Half-Life in the Source Engine

Why not open up part of the code that deals with FX identifiers?

why are you guys so obssessed with FX identifiers lol

because we've been told for a year that its a major hangup in the UE4 project

rajko is the major hangup

fx ids tie into everything

pretty much

22:10

last time i had time to work with it i gave you hyperjumps

are fx ids used for animation or just the particle system that you did via playFX ?

basically anything with a timeline was made as a fx

22:13

world is very lfieless without it

22:13

thats why i wanted to import them

and thats all handled server side? Or could it potentially be reverse engineered from client data?

...

22:14

ue4 is new client

Im talking about the old client, thats where we'd find the data is it not?

22:15

Or was it on the old SOE severs?

i reverse engineered fx_packed.fxb

22:15

completely

22:15

but none of the variable names are there

22:15

just the curves/timelines

22:15

i explained all this before

And where would we find the variable names, if we were looking for them

you dont

22:16

you would use my fancy ass gui and tweak the curves

22:16

and see what they effect in the fx

22:17

it would just be a lot of effort to create that gui

22:17

and i dont have time

would this be checked in the old client then

22:19

change a variable, run the fx, see what changed?

yes

I’m aware the community isn’t as big as something like Pokémon but they open sourced it from the beginning, people would look at it and take on small easy parts to get acquainted and eventually there was a community. You’re brushing every possibility off as “just this” or “just that”, where the fuck is your enthusiasm for any of this? Would you rather nothing happen and you get to keep it all closed up then maybe being pilfered but leaving the possibilities open?

yes

22:20

i dont owe you anything

do you know if it is possible to do a hook and be able to change curves in realtime

not really but i think you can just reload the entire file

22:20

and any new fx spawned will use the new file contents

hmm

>hurr the world sucks

22:21

Ok edgelord

22:21

You’re actively killing your own project

Not really helping Rockoria

^

Rockoria, you are kinda being a massive douchenugget

Please contiune @Static Variable

btw your recaptcha is going to expire on the site

basically what rajko needs

22:23

is someone to build a gui that can rewrite the file

22:23

and then a hook in the client that can force fx-reload

22:23

click button, reload file and see what changed

22:23

mark it down

Why can't you use a program like Notepad++ to re-write the files?

the data is liked serialized

why cant you use a program like notepad++ to edit the exe

22:24

and also the curves dont make ANY sense as a ubnch of floats in a xml file ?

22:24

which is how i export them now

Someone call John from Traveler's Tales

22:24

He'd know what to do

I should be quiet, I know nothing about coding

you could learn

fucker can figure out how to get 4 channel PCM music out of a 1 channel chip by manipulating curves

@Static Variable As far as I can tell, programming involves a lot of math, and I suck at math lol

not really

22:27

lol

It doesnt, but dont tell universities that

this does

they are too busy learning gender theory

snerk

most curves are saved as the coeficients a b c d of the ax^2 + bx + cy thing

and Raj broke my brain

No, they're too busy forcing you to take 300 level math courses for a fucking CompSci degree

High School Algebra is the most advanced math I know, anything above that is beyond me.

for gamedev you need vector/matrix math

It's Matricks Math!

22:29

So I need to know Matrix Math, to work on a Matrix game

22:29

Seems fitting

Vectors and Matrices are linear algebra though

you need algebra for computer graphics

thats 200 level at most

but for regular programming, i hardly learned math to be honest

22:30

maybe discreet math such as logic

22:30

a -> b

22:30

etc

Just double checked, it was Math 211 at my school

pretty sure if you do sci or eng they teach you math as a pre-req because of other courses

I wonder if my local community college is offering a programming course

meta, just write some stuff with javascript

22:31

can program something on your chrome

22:31

can find free stuff online

22:32

alert("Hello world")

22:32

done

It was really frustrating, because I ended up having to switch majors because my brain cant do that kind of math on pen/paper

22:33

Like, I was taking C++ and Java in highschool, and then to take the followup courses, it was locked behind math prereqs that I could do if I had access to a calculator or computer, but not in my head

https://jsfiddle.net/

22:33

easy to learn how to write simple js programs

But MxO uses C++

Modern Programming has always been far more language based than math based to me, you need to understand how things are structured, be able to know how something is going to flow, be able to make flowcharts and psuedocode and plan shit out.

there is similarity between languages

22:35

most popular languages have if-else statments

22:35

for/while loops

Some functions require math, but shit dude, you dont gotta be a math wiz to work on them and if you cant figure it out, its not like you cant ask for goddamn help

hmm

you need to know trigonometry and matrix math in order to make any in-game movement work

i feel like at one point I can try to get you guys to compile reality.exe server

22:36

even thought that server is shit, it would still feel kind of cool to get your first server going

I havent touched code in a decade now

and you could try build on it for learning purposes

Any source y'all recommend for learning C++?

get visual studio free edition

22:41

and google visual studio tutorials

22:41

get hello world to compile

22:41

and build on it

ok

if you never programmed in your life, i would recommend java though

i wouldnt

lol

22:43

i knew you would say that

it would destroy your brain forever with terrible practices that dont map to how hardware operates

but you could learn the basics and not run away

22:44

actually once you download visual studio

22:45

there may be a channel on irc

22:45

where C programmers hang out, and you could ask them question

22:45

not sure if people still use IRC these days

22:45

lol

22:45

that is some old school shit, but i remember people going there to ask questions

irc is still preferred for programmers/hackers

"This is the ugliest hack I've ever done." ~ Link @bitbomb

I did C++ before I learned java, java helped when I had to do actionscripting for my graphics design class

22:50

back when people still used adobe flash

i do java for a living, 12 years so far

22:50

pretty easy difficulty language

22:50

but rajko is right, you want to get close to hardware and good performance, c++ is way to go

yeah its not awful, and I imagine its better after a decade since I last used it

the power is in the libraries

C# is the way to go if you want a java like managed language done right

22:51

ignore java

22:51

they had their time, they wasted it with trash

I mean, you cant totally ignore something thats in common use

22:51

if your project uses java, you use java

its 2018

22:52

who the fuck still uses java

I imagine a lot of webdev stuff

nope

22:52

webdev is all node.js now

back end stuff is still done via java

node.js is still Javascript....

only if they are supporting/maintaining an old java codebase

oooh js != java

JAVASCRIPT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH JAVA.

22:53

its actually ECMAScript 5

they are not changing the java language, true, but they are still building a ton of stuff for java

22:53

java is like minecraft

22:53

ok by itself, but when you add mods to it, you can get some interesting stuff

entire design of java is completely flawed

anyways, rajko is just a hater

22:54

he hates java

FOR GOOD REASON

22:54

the only reason you use it is because youve been indoctrinated into it back in 1999 when it was "new" and spammed everywhere

22:55

oracle is trash company, java is trahs everything

it is not java that I actually like

22:55

it is the fact that you have awesome IDE - like Idea/eclipse

hahaha

that you have intergation tools like Jenkins

eclipse is complete garbage

22:55

youre just stuck

22:55

you havent explored anything better

and that most of the stuff you want, you can find via maven

everything is garbage, code in assembly

theres an IDEA/IntelliJ style IDE for most languages btw, by JetBrains

real coders use Fortran

22:56

and punch cards

this is like arguing Unity vs Unreal vs Crysis Engine

22:57

most of them can get the job done fairly well

22:57

but the tools, community and other stuff matters too

wire up your if/else statements with hardware gates like a man

anyways, i am going to see if I can come up with anything to help for the project

23:00

i haven't been able to do anything myself for a year or so now

23:00

real life shit always gets in a way

Just make sure it's not coded in Java or rajko will delete the Matrix

pretty sure for 3d party tools rajko don't care

only thing worse than java

23:00

is php

lol

23:01

i was goign to build it in php

23:01

haha

23:01

bootstrap for front end, php for back end

23:01

and throw js for validation too

Nah build it in Python

python is pretty cool though

23:01

pretty widely used

23:02

even mxo client uses it (the old one)

Man, I should see if cyl0n would be interested in helping

23:02

he owned a software dev company

the problem is anyone who can help, doesn't have time or interest

23:03

and those who want to help don't want to learn

hes retired now

and anyone interested doesnt have a compatible skillset .w.

turns out when you own a company that makes software for important shit, you can retire early

yeah, but I didn't know shit either, and I learned how to use Ida to reverse engineer some of the code

D0$H

Ill put out feelers, Im almost sure he was tearing apart the MxO client while it was still live, because he told us how it used Python even way back when

SO HARD TO NOTICE

23:05

PYTHONW.DLL RIGHT IN THE CLIENT DIR

1

Yes because you have to open up the dir every time you want to load the game

23:05

and not when you have interest in how it was built

gotta run, chat with you guys later.

we dont have any of the server scripst tho

23:06

shame

23:06

i decompiled and recompiled all the client ones from 2.3 to 2.7 python

23:07

so you can actually use them properly if you wanted

Well, I poked at Cy, if he's interested he'll let me know

23:20

He'll probably be reaching out to you @rajkosto , I also gave him this discord

cant

23:21

too apathetic to even think about mxo stuff

1

Well, you asked for someone competent and I'm reaching out to the only one I know, so ball's in your court my dude

never asked for this

okay Adam Jensen

Pfft

23:26

That's funny

@RogueA The stories that you mentioned you guys are writing

16:08

are you publishing them anywhere

No

Hi i discovered discord forum here Malachi

8:53

how progress in game dear Rajko _

8:55

Can i please be added to ZION ?

8:55

I AM ON MXO EMU SINCE 2015

8:56

sorry i see now instruction

8:57

.enlist Zion

Malachi has enlisted with the Zion organization.

.mxohitler

In case you haven't seen it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ABu8GHmx5Q

Hitler Finds Out The Matrix Online Is Shutting Down

Is the game that you can download from mxoemu.info the old before started port to unreal?

1

obviously

Figured just making sure. @KillerAngel ^

https://www.pcgamer.com/what-its-like-to-kill-a-game/ mxoemu gets a shout.

What it's like to kill a game

How developers and community managers deal with the process and pain of shutting down online communities.

anybody alive here?

whats up

pew pew

so how've you been rajko?

@rajko Hey rajko, how did you reverse engineer the client to get all those 03 create/update information

16:02

was that in gameobj mostly ?

cant even mention correctly

old habits

16:17

you know what they say

old habits of not tab completing ?

16:27

and yes you can get everything you need for 03 protocol other than custom view packto/unpackfrom if you 100% reverse engineer format and know what all the fields in gameobjects.gob are

have you tried using radare tool

16:47

or do you still use ida?

theres no need to downgrade

do you plan to release any of the gameobjects.gob formats?

how active/good is Matrix Online emulator?

as long as you have a good imagination, it is really good

It's really good if you don't like features

21:26

Or content

.enlist Zion

cool56571 has enlisted with the Zion organization.

@HD_Neo Are you guys still developing your code?

@Static Variable yeah - the last monthes i didnt do much on it but it is still in development (and will be probably forever in development :D) - unless someone drops official MxO Source Code for Server from the sky

(which will maybe never happen as the probability that these files exists is near zero

)

@HD_Neo Is this your github https://github.com/hdneo/mxo-hd ?

hdneo/mxo-hd

mxo-hd - Hardline Dreams Old Source Codes

yeah this is the active respository

hey @rajkosto, out of curiosity, what language(s) is your server being written in? (edited)

was C++ always and forever

my dude

hello all

20:51

Can i have update what happen on the game ?

Can someone help me find my useropts for the emu?

Vesuveus maybe under your profile?

Found it. In the app data folder

email yourself a copy so you don't lose them again

.enlist Zion

realus/laggingb has enlisted with the Zion organization.

where can i find the story mission guide etc

15:52

i remember someone was documenting all the missions and events

Hmm

Dmed u a list of wiki pages and forms Static Variable. If anyone else wants the list I sent it in this chat 2/27/18 or I can dm it to you (It is ~30 lines so i dont want to spam chat)

hey hey hey

23:29

any interesting updates?

Nope

Aw.

@rajkosto Would Codewalker work with MxO?

what's Codewalker

Oh nevermind

2:17

It's for GTA V only

2:17

My bad

if only this had a big dev team

You have the money to fund a big dev team?

@Static Variable#5447 archival science. And I have a torrent with most mission logs.

1

@Vesuveus I may reach out to you at some point to try to copy it, ideally I would like to clean it up and put it on github

16:29

save the lore, if anyone ever want to re-create the game content

1

I wonder if there's an app that can port the screenshot text to word processor.

yeah its called OCR, there are many of them (edited)

1

Is it possible to turn these NPCs into mission givers?

@rajkosto thoughts?

no

0:36

but why would you ?

Because the default missions were boring as fuck? lol

you can spawn whoever you want and have them offer whatever you want

There's only so many Zionist or Merv Operatives you can assassinate before you run through the entire population of either organization.

the 1%

gasp

0:37

I was the 1% of something?

0:37

Mommy, I finally made it to the 1%

0:39

I just had the idea of maybe having more neighborhood contact missions to replace the CARRIER missions

Up courier pls.

Up courier?

Was anyone here apart of the guild Illuminati?

hello guys

22:24

game got missions now ?

22:24

@everyone

Lmao no

1:30

Also I think everyone ping is disabled

1:30

For a good reason clearly

Yup disabled

Yuppers

Yep

Is this game even alive rn?

r u

?

21:25

I really wanna try it but i cant find download

mxoemu.info

How do you go into combat mode

22:45

with npcs

You can't

22:46

There is no NPCs

the peds

22:46

That's what i meant

22:47

NPC(Non Player Controlled)

thats not what NPC even means

You can't fight either

It is

You can't fight the bluepills

okay

non-player character (NPC)

non player character

You can run into them, that's about it

yeye

they arent even real

22:48

you can turn them off

I mean, it's The Matrix. Is anything in The Matrix real?

Yes and no

So there is nothing to really interact with?

Doors

22:49

All of them work

You can also interact with the hardlines and subways

22:50

There's also light switches you can turn on and off

You can change your RSI mask

What's that good for?

22:51

Is the development stopped or waddup

Oh, War, What's it's good for? Absolutely Nuttin!

Development happens in our spare time

22:52

I know someone who was looking into getting missions working, not sure if he still is

22:52

How is the UE4 coming along tho

Unreal engine for this?

Rajkosto is trying to port the game into unreal

omg

22:54

sounds amazinf

This game runs on an engine called Discovery

amazing

22:54

lol

Yea, the ONLY game to run on Discovery

But the game was good tho

True

UE4 would just allow more freedom on the Dev side

I should make a mod for this

Does anyone think the Matrix Online will come back.

0:40

With servers

0:40

the full game and not just an emu

officially ? no.

It would be cool

0:41

I never tried it because i'm too young

0:41

But it looked really awesome

I'm 15 and I'm doing what I can

I mean i was too young at the time of the game

0:45

i'm 15 rn too

Oh

it died like 2019

0:45

2010

2009

k

go play Fortnut you wee bab

2

1

I played it in its final year

Go play minecraft survival games rajko

No u

no w

Yes i

stay down bitchass

The icons we'll never be able to use again (edited)

4:36

Why are there small children here

6:23

Nobody cares about your age don't announce it weeb

2

Lol

Why did mxo die why did they close it?

Low player count and revenue

16:40

The same reason every mmo dies lmao

because SOE.

I seem to remember an interview with one of the GMs stating there were less than 300 subscribers in its final year. Frankly I’m amazed they didn’t pull the plug sooner, which makes me believe there was a contractual agreement to keep the game running for at least five years. I don’t think anyone was surprised when the shutdown announcement was made. The game had become a ghost town.

I think they had a contractual obligation to keep the game running until DUCO went live.

Does anyone have source code for The Agency? Asking for a friend...

I make a source code for The Agency every time I use the restroom

1

How do I download and play?

.howto

Hey wait a minute... It's 2018!

2:48

What's going on here

2:48

Is my grandson tricking me again

.howto

https://www.goombastomp.com/the-matrix-online/

Cheers guys, got it up and running

21:53

Surreal

Games That Changed Our Lives: 'The Matrix Online'

Not many people can say that a game they never played changed their lives, but I can. I’m sure that might seem counter-intuitive, but from the time The Matrix Online was in beta through about a year after launch, I was completely immersed in the game. It was 2004, sometime ...

Cool article. I always like seeing MxO in the media, mainly because it always felt like it was such a tiny community. I guess it was, but just knowing other people out there feel the same about it is kinda cool.

"So, when Morpheus addressed the entire community during an important event, everyone stood around and listened… except for one member of the Illuminati who stripped to nothing but a hat and boots and somehow managed to “hyper-hump” Morpheus. (Rumor has it that during that event, Laurence Fishburne was in the studio watching it all happen. Sorry you had to witness that, Mr. Fishburne.) That’s canon. Forever."

16:36

Except when Warner Bros. just discounts mxo in general with the new movies

17:58

Because you know they will

Eh, to be fair, I wouldn't blame them

18:02

There were several parts of MxO's storyline that kind of went off the rails

18:02

The Unlimits, The Oligarches, the N30 Agents.

18:03

Not to mention the death of Morpheus and The Oracle

oracle died in mxo ?

18:19

where is a good place to find all cannon related to mxo?

There was a site that had the whole main story in chronological order

Honestly, anything after The War Arc, I kind of just mentally threw away

18:44

The Oligarch Storyline just didn't mesh with Matrix canon, at all.

@Metalogic Were you the person who was working on creating story lines for the emu

19:18

or thinking about doing something like that?

Yes

have you thought about making it interactive fiction

19:21

i found something like this

19:21

https://deecity.itch.io/arc

Arc by deecity

A cyberpunk adventure.

19:22

I am trying to see, what is the best and easiest way to create story content

19:22

also at some point I want to create the lore for MXO

19:23

or at least copy the archived lore that other people recorded into one collection

19:23

i.e. all the story missions etc

What do you mean by Interactive Fiction?

well the simplest way, is you write up a mission (or a short story)

19:25

have some choices that the player can take

19:25

and write up various endings depending on which path the player took

I don't think that would work in a MMO setting

star wars mmo had something similar

19:26

where players voted on a dark side or light side choice

19:27

anyways, just a thought

The Matrix Universe is a bit more complicated than Dark vs. Light

well the missions themselves were pretty linear

The story conclusion got weird from what I remember. Something to do with Trinity, a Black Room and a new Matrix?

Yea, and a gold hallway

2:52

The storyline was that Neo and Trinity were actually programs in human body kind of like Smith was in that one dude in Reloaded

2:52

and that the programs were used in every Matrix reboot

6666

3:03

That was my cat

3:03

I think he's hailing Satan

I didn't get very far in the story. I had to work tons of hours back then. 10 hrs/day, 6 days/week, hard manual labor, I was miserable and I had very little time for recreation. Times have changed. XD

So... maybe I'm missing something. I haven't found a mission NPC that responds, yet. What is there to do in the game right now?

NUTTIN

Right on. lol Well, I'm happy to see someone resurrected it. I believe in you.

You can explore the city

22:54

That's about the main thing to do

I found an apartment that looked like Neo's

How much is the rent?

Too much. I'll have to start selling VR experiences on the black market to make ends meet.

Are we talking real life, or in MxO?

Exactly.

23:20

I'm sorry, I have to work for a few hours. We'll have to continue this later. withdraw

.howto

https://www.metro.us/entertainment/movies/joel-silver-provides-matrix-reboot-update

Oh, hey guys by the way

Yes?

Just used the howto command after i ran into a problem with starting the game. tought it's not gona be visible. But it is(?) so i tought it's the time to say hello to everyone

Oh okay

20:57

Hi

But, since i'm here and all i'm realy happy to see there is still some life in this game. The servers were shut down long before i had the chance to try it.

@KriszWake I can show you around in a bit

Wow, interested in an emu for a game you never played live?

Seriously, I've talked to people on the regular that has never heard of MxO who wish they did

22:29

It seems like SOE, Monolith, WB, did a piss-poor job of advertising the game

They had an ad with the theatrical release of revolutions!

22:31

Sounds pretty solid to me

22:32

After that, yeah piss-poor at best

Anyone wanna hang out in a bit?

22:36

Find a club near MaraC

There is a club in Mara

22:36

Polyvinyl

Cool, I'll chill there for a bit, if anyone wants to join me, I'll be on about 10:30PM BST

@Metalogic I hadn't heard of MxO till I ran across an article talking about it closing. Then I found some article a few months ago about it being resurrected, and somehow ended up finding this Discord. I'd love to pop onto it with others.

I feel like finding the discord is the actual rabbit hole.

22:32

The entire thing is a rabbit hole

Truth

@rajkosto How do I import MxO objects into UE4? I've tried the Import button on my UE4 Dev screen, but nothing comes up when I explore the MxO files.

obvioulsy

0:19

it aint fuckin magic

Do I need the source code?

you need the tons of source code i wrote FOR ue4 and my ue4 engine fork

0:20

and also my mxo exporters

Ahh

0:20

Okay

0:21

Any plans to make any of that public?

Yes, no, maybe?

2

This has come several times

0:34

He refuses because people abandon it a lot

0:34

Fundamentally disagree with that as a reason to close it off but it's his project so (edited)

0:34

He do what he do

Hell I'd help if I knew more C++/C/C# (at least, I'm assuming that's the language used).

I mean, then learn it lol

0:36

Ain't that hard

0:36

But knowing C and knowing how to search through and decipher extremely confusing captured code is really not the same thing

0:37

You need to be an expert for a decomp or conversion project

Oh absolutelty. I most definitely don't consider myself an expert.

Lots of people have said "I would help if I knew x" without really knowing what that entails

0:37

And I get why that pisses him off

0:37

But it's the internet lol that's 90% of the crowd

True

Where I disagree is in the fact that he clearly doesn't have the time or motivation to continue working on it

0:38

So at that point what are you keeping it closed for

0:38

It's just vaporware at that point

And the thing is, even if I had the knowledge and experience, I couldn't guarantee that I'd 1. Be able to do what needed to be done, and 2. That I'd be able to give it the time commitment needed.

Then uhh

0:39

Why bring it up

0:39

At all

0:39

Seems kinda silly

Fair point.

0:41

Thinking out loud I guess? I'm not sure. Either way, I fully thought the emu project was dead, as the site itself hasn't had an update for a year or so now.

It's a marvel he made it this far but if he's done might as well pass the torch

0:41

In my opinion

0:41

Sucks he found out about it so late or he might have been able to do a lot more packet capturing

0:42

Nothing to say that would actually help all that much but who knows

Yeah, true. Hell when I read that he basically captured packets and reverse engineered them to figure the code out...holy shit. That's hardcore stuff.

What needs to be done for every mmo revival or private server project

0:43

Just usually they start it well in advance

0:43

Knowing that the lifespan is limited

0:44

Phantasy Star Online has basically 1:1 functionality because it ran from what, 1999 to 2009?

0:44

MxO had a very short lifespan for an mmo

0:45

Come to think of it he probably would have had to start from launch to really make headway

Ah, yeah. Sadly I never got a chance to play it when it was originally out.

The actual game was kinda bad but the community elevated it well above its gameplay

Oh nice

I'm kinda here just for the morbid curiosity of the entire thing

0:49

I am very much into game modification or restoration for strange properties or titles

0:50

And this was one hell of a restoration attempt

To my understanding the game is still being worked on emulation wise. Just the site doesn't reflect that.

There are two MxO Emulators out there, and honestly MxOEMU is the best one of the two. Hardline Dreams is like a giant fucking mess.

1:47

Unstable as fuck

1:47

@rajkosto be like, "These people, they drive me to drink."

Sorry @rajkosto. Much love for what you do.

Anybody have all of the raw character move anims, particularly for Aikido?

20:55

@everyone

Hardline dreams is kinda just a meme at this point isn't it?

at any point

Like on paper they have "more progress" because it's super hack-y and fucked

by that metric, mxosource is most advanced server ever

LOL

21:23

I like how there's a small community of restoration attempts

Hardline Dreams is held together by spit, chewed gums and dreams

held together by badly rewritten code by a guy who doesnt know what hes doing (edited)

Well true

21:24

I was making a joke

mxosource was worked on by someone who wasnt even a programmer, but a 3dsmax etc user (edited)

I have a question, does MxOEMU have a free camera mode?

how can server have that

I dunno, I just had some ideas of taking shots of MegaCity without my character in the way

P bad sales pitch

21:26

21:27

Hot take: Instead of recreating mxo 1:1 in UE4 (you've expressed it's extremely obtuse and annoying) you should just import models and animations and do your own thing

22:43

Maybe that goes against the core concept of all this but idk something would happen with it

@d3ad That would be nice, but @rajkosto isn't willing to part with the assets

He's already imported models and animation and rigged some kind of character control judging by UE4 videos

22:45

From a few years ago

I know, and he still doesn't want to publicly release them

...i did not say that

The assets, I mean

I didn't say release the assets I said stop trying to fuck with FX that's taken multitudes of years and time with no results

22:46

And just move on and do something with it

22:46

Even if it's not an mxo recreation

As for creating a new game with them, maybe? The thing about the world geometry is that, by itself, it's very limitng what kind of game one could make with them

Honestly Idk why I even bother trying to talk about this

As it's mostly an outside world with some occasional, repeated, cordoned bits

22:47

A rather far cry from something like, say, Metroidvania or Deus Ex 1

22:47

Because it's a subject worth discussing

If anything were actually gonna come of it

22:48

Which it won't

But would require lots of revisions depending on the desired game type

22:48

The greatest assets are the character models, since they can be put into anything

You could definitely make something mxo-like without perfectly recreating what is honestly a bad looking and functioning game

But the level design, not so much

22:49

Meh, looks fine to me

22:49

MxO, I mean

It looked okay for the time actually

22:49

It was 2005

The models have a bit of "action-figure" rigging (Only one finger for Dim Mak Strike? Come on, Monolith), but other than that, they're the strongest of the bunch

This entire ordeal is honestly just wasted potential

Kind of. Truth be told, I only really did play MxO because it was Matrix-related.

22:50

And still went back to EtM and PoN because they were actual action games.

22:51

Which is another reason why I'm vying for the release of the assets: It lets creators do whatever they want with them

The UE4 situation was an opportunity to drop the shackles of the horrible tech behind the original game

22:51

And instead it's been perfectly restrained to it and completely halted as a result

Perhaps the assets, and even Special Move attributes, could be repurposed for a more real-time, Phantasy Star Online/Black Desert Online-esque game

22:52

Which is another giant pursuit in its own right

Considering most people here who wanna play this game again want the storytelling and not the bad combat, bad level curve and bad mission design

22:52

No reason to stick to it so faithfully

Yeah? What is the status of this MxO Revival project anyway?

especially in terms of tech

22:52

It's dead

Will the original client still be used? Is using UE4 the future?

22:53

Well as far as tech goes, I don't see the point of, say, recreating all the assets - they look fine as is, and reusing them would save on development time for whatever the project may be

22:54

Yeah, it looks like a 2005 art asset, but not a 1995 one, either

I think you're missing what I'm trying to say

22:54

Tech is not assets

Ah, ok, wasn't sure if you were conflating the 2

22:54

Or if I was

The assets are honestly fine

22:55

The engine and codebase to work from is not

True

22:56

I have a friend who actually helped restore some MMOs that were shut down, and after he copied the contents on my MxO CDs and tried pursuing the restorating process, he was baffled with his findings

22:56

According to him, MxO was built on top of some previous, unrelated game code

Seeing monolith now is surreal, they've clearly gotten their shit together quite a bit lol

Like Blood 2 or some shit

22:56

And apparently, there's some DRM implemented deep into it that caused quite a few hurdles

22:57

Idk what he's doing with it now, I'll have to ask him

22:57

As for Monolith, I highly disagree - they're a shell of their former self at this point

22:58

I knew the writing was on the wall the minute they became a WB company

Okay there's no FEAR in their catalog anymore

22:58

But like on a technical and commercial level

22:58

They've succeeded quite a bit

22:58

They're just being bashed into a wall by WB lol

They went from making unique hits like Blood, AvP 2, FEAR 1, Condemned 1, etc. to occasionally keeping the LotR IP afloat

I actually Tweeted to Monlith to see if they were still licensing their Liltech engine

22:59

They were not

Were they ever?

It was worth a shot

Also blood 2 used the same engine as mxo so there is probably just some common functions (edited)

He said it was something deeper than that

23:00

Like, actual gameplay code that was commented out

23:00

So it looked messy

...Yeah because they probably used functions from that base and removed what they didn't need

23:00

It was notoriously messy yes

23:00

But that's not so uncommon

Also, what is this delusion of companies that were big around the turn of the millennium only now turning a profit? Monolith was doing just fine, even before WB bought them out.

Honestly their engine just wasn't meant to host an MMO was the biggest problem

23:01

I'm aware of monoliths history

Yeah, and it's a damn good one

But a lot of their games had tech problems

Such as?

23:02

MxO is the only one that comes to mind. Blood 1 runs fine, FEAR 1 and Condemend 1 are mint, etc.

23:03

I mean I guess they used to experiment with space partitioning quite a bit with Liltech, and only managed to figure it out come FEAR 1's release

23:03

But I don't recall their games ever being hogs or whatever

No actually you're right I'm confusing it with something else

23:04

Mxo was the only one with huge issues

23:04

Because it just wasn't designed for an mmo

Lol

23:04

You can say that again

23:04

Using an engine made for linear, industrial-looking games as the basis of an MMO - What could possibly go wrong?

Hey they made it work better than expected

23:05

Kind of a marvel it works at all

Also, WB still owns FEAR, they're just sitting on it because they can't implement lootboxes or some other stupid shit. Seriously, who asked for FEAR Online?

23:06

True, but it seems like they used some very obvious techniques to make it work

23:06

E.g. copy-pasted rooms, only loading interiors upon entrance, etc.

23:06

The results are astounding, but underneath the hood, it's not exactly voodoo, as far as I can tell

I mean it's a total mess so yeah

23:07

That's why the only thing this game gets nostalgia boners from is the community

23:07

Which was exceptional

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The live-team was also quite dedicated

Going back to the commented out code, though - my point with that is that it seems like MxO had a very sloppy dev process from the get-go, like they were rushed into it

MxO had a very buggy start, yes

I know I wouldn't start a new game project on top of an old one. Duplicate some universally usable code, yes, but not have an epic poem's worth of commented out code

Depends on the project I guess

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They could have been using the blood 2 functions to test things early on

Lol

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Depends on management, the way I see it

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But I digress

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And actually, yeah, MxO did have one of the best, most active, most supportive communities I've ever seen

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I saw very little trolling in my time

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Especially relative to other Multiplayer games

There was lots of cybering though

Lol. Well, the game did have kiss emotes

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Par for the course, far as I can tell

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And that cake item? Lmao

A-synchronous mmos seem to get a lot of support community wise, probably because the lack of mainstream appeal means band together or your game is dead

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PSO and PSO2 have a similar thing

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Extremely talkative and supportive

Err, define Asynchronous

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Do you mean non-mainstream?

Well for the time that meant not a wow-clone

Meaning...?

I suppose it would mean something different in todays environment

I literally only played WoW one time

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So Idk what the term means in this context

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I know about Asynchronous code and threading in programming, but not here

2000s saw a lot of extremely generic wow-ripoofs trying to ride that interest and profit train

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Anything that wasn't like that seemed to gather quite the community

Oh, so an MMO that was actually trying to be unique

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And not directly rip off WoW

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Right, you mentioned that

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Sorry - very bad night of sleep

You can already tell that this applied to mxo without even any research

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Because the discord for the dead revival project for the dead mmo

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Is extremely active

That and the obvious visuals

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1. It's Cyberpunk instead of Tolkien-esque like Guild Wars, WoW, EverQuest, etc.

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2. It's "modern" instead of Medieval

I mean for the time that was quite meaningful

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But we're in the middle of a sci-fi hype wave rn

I know, I remember

23:15

Only other game like it was Neocron

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But just barely

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Sci-Fi Hype Wave? How so?

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Sure, there are a few blips, but I'd hesitate to call it a wave.

Almost all of the most played and most profitable video games this decade are scifi

And I looooooooooooove those Blips

Elite, no mans sky, star citizen, eve

Ooooooooooh

23:16

You're talking about games, right

Fuck even entropia universe has tons and tons of money running through it

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And that thing is just a scam in a very pretty cryengine casing

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Also, Lol, No Man's Sky

Making fun of NMS fora bad launch and being an mxo fan is a little ironic no

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The game is quite good now

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Not "the vision" yet

I've never played NMS

But good on its own merits

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I mean I avoided it like the plague on launch because it was a piece of shit, but at this point outside of all the politics the game is fine

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And even if you still hate you can't deny it has a big playerbase and a lot of money

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Was just using it as an example of that, really

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Honestly if mxo came out now with monolith's current engine version it would probably do quite well, 2005 nobody was on the "rp" thing yet in games in a mainstream way and it was all about high fantasy then

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Culturally it fits quite snug now

True

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The Live Events and RP being the central focus was ahead of it's time

We're also right at the perfect age for matrix nostalgia boners

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It was still pretty fresh in 2005

True, I think the original movie is like 20 years old now

WB is probably gonna rape that license to the ground now unless they give it to talented people and don't meddle

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In both games and movies

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Now that they've announced it coming back in some form

inb4 TV series

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Actually, I would love a Matrix TV Series

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I just hope it ends up better than The Sarah Conner Chronicles

It would probably be cheap cheesy trash like superhero tv shows

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It's just junk food basically

A bit ironic? I wouldn't say so. I doubt MxO's launch was even half as bad, particularly because even by 2004, the Matrix IP was dead, and any subsequent media and merchandise released after it was in the name of accruing whatever profit possible before the licensing expired.

The last matrix movie came out 2 years prior

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And there were many games and spinoffs in that time

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It was riding its last wave of good fortune but it wasn't dead

The Sequels didn't live up to the original movie. I love all three movies, but let's be honest with ourselves.

Oh they suck

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They suck so bad

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But it's funny

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And yeah, it is ironic, because you're making fun of a game for a bad technical launch while mxo had an absolute awful launch as well

I thought the action sequence went on for too long. The Burly Brawl, the Highway chase scene, etc. etc.

I know it came out 2 years prior, but Revolutions basically killed it. Not just because it was a Trilogy ender, but because it was subpar

I think neo fighting a million smiths is where it passed into meme status tbh

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Didn't take long

I find it fitting that the leader of the Machines is called deus ex machina.

Insofar as many games and spinoffs, sure, there were some ripoffs riding the wave well into like, 2006, but that doesn't mean the Matrix itself didn't bow out, seeing, as how we didn't see anything post-2005 (MxO doesn't count)

This is a dumb argument to start with because you're confusing a technical launch with a marketing one

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Which I didn't mention at all

It's not, because I'm not talking about the technical launch anymore

Although I do like the idea of the Cycle of The One, and Smith being a virus that infected The Matrix. It could have been handled better.

No mans sky had amazing marketing and MXO had pretty horrible marketing, but regardless they both launched buggy and unfinished and that's what makes it ironic

Define "horrible"

Barely existed at all

What made The Burly Brawl Meme-land is the sound effect such as a the bowling ball knocking down pins effect

In 2005 tv ads still kinda mattered and mxo had like, 1?

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There were a couple banners on sites

Ah, exposure. That's likely because they knew it was kind of a lemon, and because of the IP itself still carrying enough clout as a brand to compensate

And that was kinda it

I think I remember the MxO commercial

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Although the Powerade ones stuck around more

Gotta love product placement

Could be worse

Tastee Wheats!!!

23:31

The Wheats that you can Taste!!

But my point is that I don't think it's ironic because the conditions both games faced are very different, and thus not equivalent, regardless of the initial poor launches both faced

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Plus I never cared about NMS

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I knew it was going to suck when they uttered the phrase "Randomly-Generated".

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And/or "Procedurally-Generated"

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MxO didn't have that kind of corner-cutting garbage weighing it down

23:36

In other news

23:36

What's the word on the Matrix IP?

23:36

Any new announcements for a revival?

Mostly rumors

I c

23:39

Joel Silver dampens those 'Matrix' reboot rumors

The legendary producer provides an update

23:39

They really should try to pursue it, though.

23:39

In this age of Cinematic Universes, The Matrix has the best conditions possible for having its own.

23:40

Since it's about virtual reality, that means creators are given a blank slate to work with.

23:40

You could have a movie about aliens fighting werewolves and vampires and still have it be a Matrix film

23:41

(As per the Nightmare Incarnation of the Matrix)

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1993 Last Action Hero No Story Co-story writer with Adam Leff

23:43

HAHAHAHAHA

23:43

Oh man, that's funny

So I'm kind of curious about something @rajkosto , in UE4, would it be possible to set up radio stations in game like you have in Grand Theft Auto?

You can do anything

Can UE4 help me find true love?

@Metalogic You can't do everything, but GTA radio stations are very easy to make in general - they're just a series of looping SFX. (edited)

@ACL So that's a no on the true love.

Not unless she's into bloated game engines, unlike Unity matrixbluepill

(edited)

lol

Lol

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I wish I was joking, but it is what it is

True, anyways I am off to bed

Gnight, m10

@rajkosto well, why is that?

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LMAO

At least you're a good sport about it

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